Vince Weiguang Li – Pics and video of Vince Weiguang Li, who beheaded Tim Mclean on a Canada Greyhound bus in a bizarre attack in front of dozens of passengers.
Vince Weiguang Li stabbed and beheaded a total stranger, 22-year old Tim Mclean, who was sitting next to him just listening to his headphones and dozing on the bus.
In the video below, passengers describe fleeing in terror from the Greyhound bus outside Portage la Prairie as the deranged passenger suddenly stabbed the man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and waved the severed head at horrified witnesses standing outside.
The unprovoked assault left 34 men, women and children stranded on the shoulder of the Trans-Canada Highway about 60 miles west of Winnipeg, watching while the bus driver, a passenger and the driver of a passing truck shut the crazed attacker inside the bus with the mangled victim.
“He didn’t do anything to provoke the guy,” said Garnet Caton, 26, a passenger on the bus, which originated in Edmonton and was bound for Winnipeg. “The guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off.”
“Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock. . . . Everybody was running, screaming off the bus.”
Caton said Li was only on the bus for a brief time, after boarding in western Manitoba.
Another passenger, Cody Olmstead, 21, told reporters he had smoked a cigarette with Tim McLean earlier in the trip and that McLean boarded the bus in Edmonton on his way home to Winnipeg.
Caton told reprters that Vince Weiguang Li had changed seats to sit next to his victim just before the killing.
He said Vince Li seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, adding he was struck by how calm the man was.
“There was no rage or anything. He was like a robot, stabbing the guy,” he said.
Caton said he and other passengers prevented the attacker from getting off the blood-soaked bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons – a hammer and a crowbar.
“We were telling him, ‘Stay put, stay put, stay there, don’t try to come out.’ He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back. I’m not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up,” he said.
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August 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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Vince Weiguang Li negotiates with RCMP while still on Greyhound bus.
Vince Li in police custody.
Li being escorted into court appearance where he remained mute.
August 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Police Radio Audio Tape Of Vince Li Cannibalism
RCMP officers on way to scene of bus beheading advised that Vince Li has scissors and is cutting flesh off of Tim Mclean’s body and eating it…
August 1st, 2008 at 11:36 pm
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August 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 am
WARNING:
I watched the video at the bottom that seemed to be three photos cycling over and over – the bus, the greyhound logo, and a stock photo of a knife. Then WITHOUT WARNING they show a photograph of a decapitated head.
What were you thinking???? If you are going to show something that graphic you MUST warn viewers. There was nothing on the page to indicate anything that graphic would be shown.
I am going to be sleeping with the lights on tonight, and going to church tomorrow to make the sign of the cross with some holy water.
SHAME ON YOU.
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Thats not THE fucking head you fucking retard
August 2nd, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I guess the real retard is the one that posted that video. What an f*cking idiot!
August 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I guess the real retard is the one that posted that video. What a f*cking idiot!
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
that video is really bad taste. u should be ashamed of urself for putting it on this site
August 2nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Thanks for posting the video for the curious ppl! And HELLO to the other idiots who say that the guy who posted this is an idiot…if you are looking at the video it means you are curious too. thanks for the footage
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
as if its a real head u dicks, dnt be such pussies even if it was cos evry1 dies brruv
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Seriously……this is a shame!!!! the loser who’s been interviewed and all the other young men ran!!!!!!
They let this young man die!
If 2 people jumped the guy, the guy would have panicked and would have been subdued, and Tim may have been alive.
Maybe according to the canadians running away means heroic!
the idiot police officer called the bus passengers heros!!!
Guess its easy to be a hero in canada
August 2nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
So was that the reasl head of the victim at the end of the video or not? If it is or isn’t how do you know?
August 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I would like to say that obviously kate is an idiot herself – the person’s head is NOT the victim…..and I’d also like to say that WHOEVER POSTED THE HEAD SHOT SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST PUT A WARNING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO!!!! Not only is this picture false regarding this incident, it is also gruesome and disgusting and I’m absolutely not only questioning the sanity of the killer, but also the piece of shit who posted the video.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Typical Canadians, cowards. Believe it or not it doesn’t surprise me that they let him die without doing anything but running. First thing I thought of was why no one helped him. Canada you are a country of cowards, then again most of you are French aren’t you! I promise you that if that happened in the USA the man would be alive today and at the very least he would have his head because the guy who did it would have had half the bus attacking him to stop what was going on.
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
The video with the head is pretty funny. Almost as funny as the people who are flipping out after watching it.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am
I think everyone posting needs to calm down. Shit imagine all of us on a bus together, heads would be flying
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:44 am
andy you would have ran as well if you saw some guy getting stabbed… its not the best scene in the world… so if your so heroic then show it and dont post stupid comments about what you think of us canadians… what you said is rude because you werent in the situation so you cant say anything about how you would have reacted…
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 am
Tim Mclean I didnt know you at all but I just wanted to say R.I.P and may you have a great second life… with all the love from everyone who cares about you and even those who didnt know you R.I.P…
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:09 am
I watched that video and I agree with what has been stated before me although i do not believe that that was the actual severed head. police would not have released such gruesome photos to the public. pictures of the knife and scissors are merely showing what he had used not the actual items.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 am
LOL Canada sure has a lot of Asian immigrants
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 am
News is news. This sanitizing news by removing “offensive” stuff is retarded. Thank goodness people mirror and show the real truth, the real reality.
Anyone who tries and censor the truth is worse than hitler/goebbels.
Seems like people cant handle the truth, well, then DONT LOOK.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 am
andy, get a life. You are very brave sitting at your keybaord taking nonsense. Did you see the police rushing onto the bus to subdue this guy ….. with bulletproof vests, guns, batons, tasers etc.? No! Yet you expect ordinary citizens to be Batman. How would they know he only had a knife? If on drugs, he could possess incredible strength. He could have had a guy. It is easy to be a know-it-all after the fact.
R.I.P. Tim
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 am
It’s utterly disgraceful for the family of the victim that you publish his decapitated head on the internet for the world to see.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:10 am
Well, that’s why Asians say the Chinese eat everything except the table.
If anyone imagines the Chinese food is like something sold in U.S. or Canada, you have to re-define it. I know some Chinese guy who admits the Chinese foods in America, almost 90% of them, are americanized.
Instead, imagine the roasted caterpillar bugs, steamed rats and so on.
BTW, the killer would have a serious metal problem through out his entire life. He didn’t show any rage, but I bet he showed a huge rage when he was alone in somewhere. He controlled it somehow but finally lost control.
The mental patient who shows that level violence always has some serious paranoia; he may believe that everyone blames him.
The killer would believe that the song leaks from the victim’s earphone sounds like blaming him.
Maybe the victim was enjoying the song, which was completely different from what the killer thought, ignited the rage within the killer.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Seed,
How is this event linking to Chinese food? “Chinese eat anything with legs except table” is mentioned in Wild China, a documentary about Chinese diverse culture, and landscape. Because of the diverse culture, Chinese eat a lot of different food as well, mostly depends on the natural resources available to them. Just for the record, in China, there are more than 50 ethical group which can be all refer as Chinese.
Chinese like any other people on Earth, have good ones and bad ones, Li sets an example of a mental disabled murder one. However, keep in mind, there’re some Chinese who work in different fields of studies all around the world that benefit your life and you don’t even know it. This webpage on Wikipedia is just a very small number of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Chinese_scientists.
I hope no one judge a group with one of its worst member. If we think like that for all, no one will ever seem good in anyone anymore; that is truly sad.
Bo
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Maybe that Tim guy mumbled something nobody heard except Li that provoked him somehow… like “CHING CHONG DONG NONG FONG?”
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
@All the American kiddies calling the people on the bus cowards.
For your information, the guy was dead no matter what. HE WAS BEING STABBED IN THE JUGULAR AND BLOOD WAS SPRAYING. But then again, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised to read retarded comments from Americans anymore.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
yeah i agree, yankees gotta be the dumbest people in the world
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Funny how ALL Canadians are being called cowards.. That’s pretty funny coming from someone who lives in the most hated country in the world
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Hey now, not all Americans are dumb.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Lets consider for a second the fact that 34 people are still ALIVE!! Granted it’s awful that that young man had to die and what a horrific death it was, but because they didn’t rush the psycho, they remained alive. There really wasn’t anything that could have been done to save Tim. So call them cowards or call them brave, imagine the massacre that could have happened if they hadn’t left the bus. I hope everyone considers the trauma involved in witnessing that and hope no one suffers more than they already have.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm
What a horrifying situation, and may his family find the strength to cope and deal with this in the best way they can.
It’s so sad to see what our world has become; people want to blame and they act with such hate. The killer was a sick, deranged person who does not have a place in this world.
This did not happen because he was of asian orient, this did not happen because the people on the bus acted “cowardly”, this happened because a man fell through the cracks of the mental health profession.
It’s really sad to see that people would call those on the bus cowards. There were children on the bus, most people on the bus were sleeping, and woke up to something right out of their worst nightmare. You cannot fault someone for their actions especially when you have not been in that situation nor were you there to judge. In most cases your body will take over for you, and you will go into fight or flight mode.
Show compassion for all of those who will carry this memory with them for life. Show compassion to a family who lost a son. Show compassion to the officers who will also carry these memories, they are only human and will also be scarred for life.
Enough with the hate and blame; you only make it worse and offend more people.
There is a person to blame and he will not receive the proper justice in this world for his crime… so hopefully there is a hell.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:38 am
You guys are cowards americans are the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 9:21 am
who the hell puts a fucking persons cut off head on a video that doesn’t even pertain to the real story. What a fucking idiot.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:06 am
This is absolutely ridiculous…here is a guy who died a horrific death and all you people can argue about is Canada and America?? What u should be worried about is the inhumane way human beings are behaving in this world and what needs to be done to make a difference!! No act of killing is justified even in war!! God should be the only one to determine wether we should live or die. The reason why people commit these disgusting crimes is because we do not value life. This world needs a lot of fixing up and we need to stop being ingnorant!! Rest in Peace Tim Mclean!
August 4th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Yes, very good point. When will this “world” of ours start to make more since!? Well here’s a good start..maybe when we ALL start to pay a little more attention to what really matter’s, for example: Moral values! What ever happened to moral values. I mean people work hard for there living and children, with out a doubt, are raised by there surroundings (tv, school influence, media hype…etc.) Things like this disgust me, what else can I say. F’n Mind blowing!!
RIP to the innocent gentleman who’s life was lost in this tragic moment. Love to your family and friends.
~peace~
August 4th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
i have to say, i very rarely post comments, but i felt compelled to do so for this article. first and foremost, my thoughts are with Tim Mclean’s family and friends in their time of grief, as well the people on the bus who had to witness such a horrible occurance. but to say all Canadians are cowards or all Americans are dumb or idiotic – not very cool. I am American, and i have serious issues with alot of crap that Americans do, there are alot of idiotic people in this WORLD, and their nationality has nothing to do with it. and i don’t believe that Canadian or otherwise, in the situation they were in on the bus makes them cowards. any American -or otherwise- would have ran off the bus while witnessing the same, and it’s absurd to think anything else. they were in fear for their lives and the rest who were on the bus and got off the bus as quickly as possible. it is unfortunate that Tim was attacked in such a horrific manner, but the fact is, he was already dead by the time everyone realized what the hell was going on, and did what anyone else in that situation would have done, regardless of nationality, which was to get the hell off the bus. the passenger, bus driver and truck driver who kept the attacker secured inside the bus are absolute hero’s, as they kept the rest from being brutally, and possibly fatally attacked. it’s sad that people have to turn something this horrific into nationality bashing…we’re all human beings, and just because someone is American or Canadian or Chinese, for that matter, doesn’t mean crap…I know I would have ran my ass off the bus too, and i’m not a coward nor am i an idiot… to the Canadian’s who think that American’s are idiots, I am sorry that you feel the need to lump everyone in the same category, as I assure you there are many American’s who disagree with the same things the rest of the world disagree with when it comes to the decisons and actions of our government. and to the American’s who think that Canadian’s are cowards, how dare you…have you ever been in a situation like that to be able to call anyone a coward? Canada has less violent crime in a 10 year span then America has in 6 months…and alot of their violent crimes are commited by American’s who feel th need to use violence because they are too cowardly to handle a situation logically and instead use weapons and call themselves brave.
August 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I think the cowards are people who spend their time on computers posting crappy, ignorant and racist comments because they would never have the balls to show their ignorance to people who knew who they were.
This is obviously a case of temporary or permanent mental illness. If Mr. Li does not have a history of such illness, the Canadian police would be wise to investigate further and find out who gave (or slipped) him ecstacy. Tim Mclean had texted a friend earlier that people on the bus were taking ecstacy, which seems coincidental. If someone slipped drugs to Mr. Li without him knowing, that person is the real (if unintentional) person responsible for Tim’s death. Or perhaps Mr. Li took the drugs knowingly. At any rate, it would be ironic if Tim’s own text message lead police to the real cause of this tragedy. Hopefully the Canadian police investigate this further.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
to all you saying “americans are idiots”. You are pathetic, broad generalizations, and calling people idiots whom you don’t even personally know, is the real idiocy.
There is nothing that seperates any human on this planet other than imaginary lines drawn on a map, the true idiocy and tragedy is that you aren’t smart enough to realise this.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Alright, this is why I’m sick of national pride. First of all, all it does is starts arguments. Stop grouping people together, no one is the same as other people, just similar. You guys need to start looking at people as individuals. its people as a whole that do stupid shit, and horrifying acts such as what occurred on the bus. Its not Chinas fault, China didn’t do shit, its all Li. And the people on the bus were scared shitless, anyone who says they would’ve done something would not be saying the same thing in that kind of situation. Saying that Canadians are cowards is also stupid, sure, some Canadians are cowards, but so are some Americans, some British, some Ethiopian, and some Mexicans. No more national pride please.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
“americans are idiots”
HA! Eat hell fag!
If this happend in the states, that fucking chink woulda been smoked by a one of many gun owning Americans.
no sense picking on anyonea race or nationality.
Im very sad for the victim and his family and even sadder that canadians cant be armed.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Death penalty.
No one deserves the right to live in a looney bin getting away with this disgusting, heinous unbelievably inhumane act against another human being.
Vince Weiguang Li is unfit to breath the same air as we do.
Travel well Tim.
August 5th, 2008 at 1:04 am
@Those who think there should be a Death Pentalty
Do you even understand a think called Humanity, who are you to say that one person is not fit to live, what makes you superior?
We as a society are not a savage one and resulting into taking the live of another person being he did what he did is not Humane and I hope the Death Penalty is NEVER instated into ANY other Country and that other Countries like the USA and many others that I don’t bother naming take note and stop commiting such an inhumane act, If we murder a murderer we stoop down to their level and we turn into savages.
August 5th, 2008 at 3:21 am
First of all, I would like to say R.I.P. Tim McLean, your death is a tradgedy that didn’t deserve to happen. Condolences to his family and friends as they mourn the loss of this fine gentleman.
Next, bashing Canadians? That’s pathetic. If you were in that situation you would have done the exact same thing, I know I would have…If you are such a `hero` then why don’t you get off the computer, stop posting ignorant comments regarding something you know nothing about, and do something heroic. Stop being childish and grow up.
Again, RIP Tim, your memory will live on.
August 5th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Really can you people just think about what has happened here, a young man just lost his life. And also, to all the Americans (I am one myself) that think that Canadians are cowards, I have to say you are ignorant, even if you would act differently, you are trained with violence, everyday in america someone is robbed, shot, raped, or has some other malicious act commited againgst them, most Americans have seen more death by the age of 10 then anyone else sees in there entire life. These poor people on the bus were subject to an absolutely horendus act. This is in no way there fault, and everyone should have a little more respect.
August 5th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
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August 5th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I agree with a quote in the local paper that covered the attack, the people on the bus aren’t cowards but i won’t laud them for bravery either..that we are conditioned by the law agencies not to interviene…granted some did and good for them…just remember this took place on a bus with a narrow aisle between the seats and not all the passengers could have rushed him without climbing over the seats and making targets of themselves….going in couple at a time in the aisle would also make a larger target of yourself and thanks to the government we do not have the option of carrying firearms like our American neighbours…if we did I’m sure that someone would have done something about the situation.
I don’t think all of us Canadians are cowards and neither are all Americans idiots and to generalize either way is not right and it’s easy to judge someone when you haven’t been in the same situation.
My sympathies go out the families as Mr. Li’s family isn’t to blame for his actions but especially to to Tim’s family for all they are yet to endure with our “fabulous” justice system…
August 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
The guys seems crazy. He did not want an attorney and he pleaded to be killed. This is really sad. I wonder what has made him so crazy and desperate? No body was born like that. This is really sad.
August 6th, 2008 at 8:19 am
I don’t think it’s a question of whether it’s a real head or not that is important here (obviously not a real head).
But rather a question of respect for the dead.
Jeeeeeesus, what a way to die.
The least we can ask for is a little respect here for the guy that died that way and of course his family.
August 6th, 2008 at 8:24 am
the asian guy understood macleod not mclean so he tried to become immortal.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Vince Li Court Hearing
A man accused of beheading and cannibalising another passenger on a Greyhound bus in Canada shook his head and said “please kill me” when a judge asked him if he wanted a lawyer today.
Manitoba Provincial Court Judge Michel Chartier ordered Vince Weiguang Li to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.
Prosecutor Joyce Dalmyn, who argued for the evaluation, revealed new details about the attack, which occurred last Wednesday night.
She said Li, 40, had a plastic bag containing his victim’s ear, nose and part of a mouth in his pocket when officers arrested him.
The only response officers received from him was: ”’I have to stay on the bus forever’,” Dalmyn said.
Dalmyn also said the accused carried the victim’s severed head back and forth on the bus “taunting” officers.
Armed with a knife and a pair of scissors, he was also observed “cutting body parts from the victim and eating those body parts”, she said.
In an interview with police after his arrest, Li declined to speak for the most part, said Dalmyn. On four occasions, however, he did indicate in a low voice that he is guilty, she said.
Police are looking into information that Li may have spent as many as four days in a psychiatric facility prior to the attack, Dalmyn said.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
pray for the victims, pray for the families. stop wishing harm on each other, it only makes the crime go on. mental illness is a horrible disease. pray for all the victims. i pray for you all to stop wishing harm on others.
August 6th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
to #43 disturbed:
there is no death penalty in canada. in this case it’s for the better. he WANTS to be killed and may commit suicide.
In this situation, a death penalty makes it a very easy cop-out for mentally unstable people to just say, “oh i think i will do some heinous act, then i have an excuse to leave this world”. Just being alive and recognizing what he did is probably very nasty for Mr. Li. But I have no sympathy, serves him right.
Don’t kill him, it’s what he wants!
August 6th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
To people out there making their judgments about the people on that bus. How dare you, and especially narrowing it down and calling Canadians cowards. You should educate yourself first on the differences between our two nations before you judge.
1.) We do not have the right to bare arms like citizens in the states do. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in Canada does NOT own a gun, and unless they enjoyed hunting… likely wouldn’t know how to operate one.
2.) Cowards? People are killed every day in the States, and people sit back and watch, or don’t get out of their cars and help, or don’t report their neighbours children being beaten or starved. Perfect is an illusion and don’t think for one second that America has it. There is a reason that so many Americans wear our Maple Leaf when they travel… it’s safer for YOU that way.
3.) Quit playing the American bully…the second anyone dared called an american a coward… you would be more than offended…so don’t think that a Canadian would be.
4.) QUIT TAKING THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM A YOUNG LIFE LOST IN A TERRIBLE ACT OF VIOLENCE. IF YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY…DON’T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
Find peace and strength to move on with your life, and appreciate the good things around you!
August 7th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
In response to ROB… first of all the people on the bus were probably terrified and their first reaction was to run. I don’t no what i would have done as I wasn’t there and have never experienced anything close to this in my life. HOWEVER there are no heroes here. Its simply a sad story! The best thing these passengers on the bus could have done is exactly what they did! Otherwise we would have had more people wounded. It doesn’t matter nor make a difference where this event took place. Crazy shit happens everywhere…even more so in the US. Look at 9/11… why did they all sit there in the plain and not do anything? They could have taken over the hijackers but in a stressful , pathetic situation all you want to do is stay as calm as you can and hope it will all be over soon. There are sick people out there, and we pass them everyday! All we can do is live with as much common sense, and caution as possible.
Also.. this video is grouse, but you knew this video is OBVIOUSLY not going to be pretty. You knew that before you clicked on PLAY! Its clearly not the poor soul Tim but some Asian women. You guys that believe it was Tim are so dum!
August 8th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Wow it is pretty incredible how venomous this whole discussion has become. America vs. Canada is extremely tired and has nothing to do with the fact that a completely innocent person is dead and many completely innocent people are scarred for life.
Can you imagine being any of the survivors of this incident seeing/hearing comments like some of those posted? Do you not think they feel horrible enough already??
To those who think Americans are more heroic than Canadians – let’s not forget 9/11. Were the people on those planes all cowards for not jumping a couple of guys with box cutters? Sure, maybe a couple of people may have been injured or killed, but think of the thousands of lives that would have been saved!!! (Not to mention the tens of thousands who have lost their lives in the aftermath). The people on those planes were no more cowards than those on this bus. They were humans acting on pure adrenaline and instinct. Let’s have some humanity and compassion people!
August 8th, 2008 at 2:30 am
Well, I guess we can’t all be americans and kill people in other countries with depleted uranium bombs. We have to deal with what we have.
August 8th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I am from florida, i am very upset with some of the responses people are posting on here, listen a life was taken from a young men in a horrible painful way, he was a human being that had to face a criminal insane men that planned this for the start. Has nothing to do with american, canadians or chinese, please people stop being so stupid. I am very disturb by this. May this young man travel well .
August 8th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Have you goofs no compassion for Tim’s family.
August 8th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
those people on at least one of the planes did overwhelm the attackers and crashed it to prevent it from hitting the white house.
ever heard the phrase “lets roll”?
August 9th, 2008 at 2:42 am
The head is fake. It’s obvious by looking at it that it’s plastic. It’s sick that the OP mocked Mr. McLean’s death by showing a fake head. The OP is just as sick as Vince Weiguang Li.
August 9th, 2008 at 2:48 am
At the time of his capture, Vince Weiguang Li had McLean’s mouth, ears and nose in his pocket. The fake head on the vid clearly has all of the above.
August 9th, 2008 at 11:59 am
kiss my ass
August 9th, 2008 at 11:59 am
iam not even sure if that was tims head or just somthing he found off the net, now to put somthing like that on a site ike thsi weeather it is his head or not is weird, and i would guess is though up by a mind simular to Mr. Li’s and all of this about why didnt any one stopp him i would guess by the time any one relised wha was going on with a knife like that tim had no chance. For all the people that say those people are pussys for not steoubg in i realy wish one of u had been on that bus to help tim and i wish u could bask in the glory of saving that mans life but you wwernt and u didnt see it so please do not add insult to injery by mocking candians americans or the people that had to witness the trajity on that bus that day its just not fiar
August 9th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Canadians try to keep perpetrators alive so we can figure out their motives.
In retrospect it appears this guy’s motive was to sustain himself since he was going to be on the bus forever. On a trip through the Candians prairies I cn see where that came from. He hadn’t eaten in a long time either. They say every man is only seven meals from a felony. He must have been starving, wondering if the interminable trip would end. I guess his mind filled in the blanks after having seen too many “survivor” shows. I doubt there is anything the health system could have done since you can’t fall through cracks without stepping on the floor in the first place. Vince will suffer more in life than he would in death. That’s why he wants to die.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
well i hope the family of the victim is doing a lil better its very hard to deal with thought of how their loved one was
killed i bet their minds is raceing like what was they doing at the time i mean all that sad shit if he didnt leave if if if even the passengers on the bus they dealing with that shit the most some off them might for ever suffer from being in public or on a bus its sad. who knows what tomorrow holds for us never make judgement because no one tryed to be a hero we have more people that came out a live.good luck to everyone and for yall that it didnt happen to thank god it was’nt you stop saying if it was me i would a done this or that its all good cause you wasnt tim…..
August 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
another thing i think that li man done that shit befor he’s probly a serial killer he was eating the poor boys body parts what was his people gonna bury after that scraps of him those actions took place befor hes 40 years old tim was not his first victim..
August 13th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Did anyone read that he could have been in a phyciatric ward 4 days prior to the killing!? I think unfortunately, he planned to do this to someone. What a sick fuck. I feel SO INCREDIBLY SAD for his family/friends. What a terrible thing. Everyone on this site should stop talking shit to each other and just pray for Tim and his family! This could have happened anywhere and to anyone! God bless everyone and Tim Maclean!
August 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
I think this is an awful tragedy for Tim Mclean and his family. I hope that Vince gets his in court and they find him guilty of what he did and sentences him death.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
I don’t want to judge too harshly because you never know what you’ll do in such a situation. But, in the deepest part of me, I know I could never just sit and watch something like that happen! What has happened to the men of today? Are we such cowards that we sit by and wring our hands and run like little girls? It sickens me to know that this did not happen in a dark alley, but in the view of dozens of people. And not ONE of the men there had the balls to act like a man. Shame..shame..shame!
August 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I can’t conjure any meaning to this senseless tragedy – moreover the bickering between Canadian’s and whoever else is above the typical reaction to such a horrific, unprovoked situation. Yes, people should step in to help someone in dire need, but the reality is – alot of people don’t. Let’s not pat ourself on the back for a hypothetical moment we weren’t involved in, and the “we would have done this”. Remember, there were four planes that went down in the U.S. and the losers that took control of the planes had box cutters. Not the same deal. The real heroes were the ones that landed the last one in the field, if you want to say who did what. In situations like these it is better to feel the love for the lost and not loathe those who did not know how to help. Stop the hate!
August 19th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I don’t know which is more shocking…
This crime, or the reactions of some of people commenting here.
My God, what is this world coming to?
August 19th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I personally feel that the video was in bad taste. I certainly have not watched it but given the descriptions I do not feel the need to. It just goes to show how desensitized we have all become. The next section of my response is directed mainly to Rob…..
As for Canadians being mostly french speaking cowards WOW I really didn’t think that people were that uneducated. It is actually only roughly 25% of Canadians that are primarily French speaking and where it is easy to say that you would willingly jump someone that was clearly mentaly ill when faced with the situation I’m sure the decision is not as easy. I work everyday with patients who are mentally ill and I can tell you right now that I would think twice about jumping someone in that situation. I would make sure everyone else was safe. Situations like the bus attack would unfold so quickly that the victim was probably already fatally injured by the time people had a chance to react. WHy make more victims?
I feel that statements that Canadians are cowards are counter productive and originate from other convulted political issues and take away from the dignity of the victim. This could have just as easily occured anywhere in the world with the same outcome. That being said the only person that blame should be assigned to is the attacker.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the victim and the people who had to witness such a terrifying event. Despite the negative feedback none of you are cowards!
August 20th, 2008 at 3:40 am
Any americans dissing canadians are retards. You know whats REALLLLLY funny? LOL you guys lost 4 plane loads of people AND whoever was in those shitty buildings. FAIL
i laughed hard at that
funny thing is im not even canadian, but everyone has to admit USA is the MOST HATED country in the world. I hate you guys more than Hitler hated the Jewish Community. So to all you Americans out there reading this… get on your knees and please me bitchesss
and to this story… cmon guys…. a mans gotta eat. *grabs human leg* NUMMYYYY!!!
August 20th, 2008 at 3:42 am
P.S.
yes i am the anti christ
August 20th, 2008 at 3:45 am
ignore the last 2 posts that was my buddy……
August 20th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Ignore those last comments…. that was my retarded buddy.
but still… fuck you americans for saying canada is cowards
August 21st, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Canadians are not cowards, the only cowards are the ones running YOUR country, fellow fucking americans. If your country is so great how come the person running YOUR country is the biggest motherfucking, cocksucking coward in the whole goddam world, R.I.P. to Tim Mclean, and dearest sympathy to his family, but who do YOU think is the one who should have died, your president, George motherfucking Bush. You cant call us canadians cowards, we know whats right for OUR country, we know what we should do, but its okay, all you cum-guzzling Americans can go get your oil, and when your done, drop the motherfucking bombs, because I think that Tim Mclean is a great example of how fucked up our society actually is. So you guys can just stop with the commments, and just shut the fuck up!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:20 am
dude you all should just like think about this kid who died so horribly and not yourselves, your argueing about which country sucks more, we should be remembering Tim and leaving comments for him not for us, R.I.P Tim.
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:45 pm
As far as the usa and canada debate goes this is my two cents. If you stuck a person from the North Dakota and a guy from Manitoba in a room and neither of them said were they were from you could not tell the difference. And i think it is wrong to blame people for what the government does. And i feel if the leaders call for war they should fight it out and not get the innocent to do there dirty work. But then again if you sign up for the army you know what your getting yourself into.
Now to the bus. I used to live in Brandon manitoba and i have family in Erickson Maniotba ( vincent stopped over there) i also personally know someone with Sychophrenia and if vincent has Sychophrenia it is a very horrible mental disease. If you know nothing about Sychophrenia look into it , and by the way ANYBODY can suffer from it, and pray to god you never get it
And what about the people who wanted to protest Mcleans funeral That is sick. The world has changed for the worse now even in Canada we were told not to stop for someone on the side of the road by the police because someguy stopped for a car on the side of the road and he got stabbed. Its not almost not safe to help out anybody you don’t know no matter were you live.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I miss you Tim, you are the best friend I ever had and I enjoyed all 10 years with ya bud, looking forward to seeing you in heaven.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:22 am
VINCE LI DESERVES TO BE *UCKING EXCECUTED FOR KILLING MY BEST FRIEND, THATS NOTHING BUT FACT!
THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WE NEED THE DEATH PENALTY SO *UCKERS LIKE VINCE WONT GO KILLING SOMEONE AND NOT WORRY BECAUSE THEY WILL LIVE COMFTORABLY IN JAIL FOR LIFE.
OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS A SAD, PATHETIC, *UCKING JOKE!!!!!!!!!!
October 29th, 2008 at 10:29 am
I miss you Tim, thank you for the 10 Awesome years we had together and im looking forward to seeing you again in heaven bro.
December 24th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
“Have you ever seen anything like this before?”
WTF dude? Yeah, people behead other passengers on buses all the time.
December 29th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
The canucks should’ve let him off of the bus, and apprehended him. Whether it took a crowbar to the dome or anything. Instead they allowed him to mutilate the corpse and feast. It was their fault that this became so horrifying. Those men were cowards. They were afraid of Vince Li, scared wimps who deserve to live with these horrifying images the rest of their lives.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Vince Weiguang Li Ruled Insane
A Canadian judge ruled Thursday that a man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a fellow Greyhound bus passenger is not criminally responsible due to mental illness.
The decision means Chinese immigrant Vince Li will be treated in a mental institution instead of going to prison. The family of victim Tim McLean dismissed the trial as a “rubber stamp” that allows Li to get away with murder.
“A crime was still committed here, a murder still occurred,” said Carol deDelley, McLean’s mother. “There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife, slicing up my child.”
The judge said Li should not be held criminally accountable for stabbing McLean dozens of times last July and dismembering his body while horrified passengers fled.
Justice John Scurfield said Li’s attack was “grotesque” and “barbaric” but “strongly suggestive of a mental disorder.”
“He did not appreciate the actions he committed were morally wrong. He believed he was acting in self-defense,” Scurfield said.
Both the prosecution and the defense argued Li can’t be held responsible because Li was suffering from schizophrenia and believed God wanted him to kill McLean because the young man was a force of evil.
He will be institutionalized without a criminal record and will be reassessed every year by a mental health review board to determine if he is fit for release into the community.
DeDelley said a yearly hearing is ridiculous, and that Li should be locked up for the rest of his life.
Li’s trial barely lasted two days and only heard from two witnesses, both psychiatrists, who testified he is mentally ill.
That Li killed the 22-year-old carnival worker was never in question at the trial. Li has admitted he killed McLean but pleaded not guilty.
Witnesses said Li attacked McLean unprovoked as their bus traveled at night along a desolate stretch of the Trans-Canada Highway.
An agreed statement of facts between the prosecution and defense detailed how passengers stood outside the bus as Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and beheaded and mutilated his body. Finding himself locked inside the bus, Li finally escaped through a window and was arrested.
Li then apologized and pleaded with police to kill him.
Police said McLean’s body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim’s ear, nose and tongue were found in Li’s pocket.
A psychiatrist called by the prosecution Wednesday testified that Li cut up McLean’s body because he believed that he would come back to life and take revenge.
After the trial, government prosecutor Joyce Dalmyn said McLean’s family understood that she had to tell the court about Li’s condition.
“The evidence was so overwhelming that he was not criminally responsible. I absolutely had an obligation to bring that to the court’s attention, and the family understands and respects that,” Dalmyn said.
She said people who are mentally ill should not be convicted when they don’t know what they did was wrong.
“They need to be treated,” she said. “I certainly agree in Mr. Li’s case he needs to be treated for a very long time.”
McLean’s family is vowing to turn their attention to fighting the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well, without serving a minimum sentence in jail.
DeDelley said her son didn’t die in vain. His death highlights concerns about the justice system, she said.
“Now people are aware that there is a problem,” she said.
March 6th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The head in that video is fake, it is also a stock photo
March 18th, 2009 at 7:29 am
No one can say if passenger intervention would have saved McClean, but I do believe Americans would have tried to stop this attack. Look at what we did on 9/11 when terrorists were slashing throats on a plane over Pennsylvania. As for the idiot that says I live in the most hated country in the world, may I suggest we are the most envied country, and you’ll be asking for our help when that ice cube you call a country is attacked. The New York City police department is bigger than your Army and Air force combined. Have a Labbat’s, throw a log on the fire and watch Rachael Maddow and Kieth Oberman.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:43 am
We are seeing more and more of this kind of bizarre craziness where people without a record of mental health problems crack up all of a sudden and do unspeakable things to themselves and/or others. The craziness is a symptom of a much bigger problem, the roots of which go deeper than individual psychology. It is a social problem, a symptom of modernity, the disorientation and monstrous alienation induced by technological mass society.
I feel as sorry for the perpetrator as I do for the victim. In a sense they are both victims, victims of the machine we call industrial civilisation.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
The head is in bad taste, and it is FAKE – the killer ate his eyeballs, according to his mom on the CBC’s 5th Estate. What a nightmare.
December 1st, 2009 at 9:52 am
the lot of you make me sick you really do
a human being has suffered the most grousom death an all you lot are doing is arguing with eachother it is pathetic stop acting like a bunch of animals and think about how much this guy must have suffered and his family for that matter you lot are just as bad as the animal rights people who are wanting to use him as an example of animal slaughter to gain awarness of there campaign ur all using the tragic thing that happend to him as an excuse to call canadians cowardley and americans dumb how selfish are you really i just hope his family and friends arnt planning on visiting this site any time soon
R.I.P tim mcclean rest well you where an insperation to alot of people loved by many and will be missed by all
April 25th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
I couldn’t have explained things better myself. Off with his head!
May 15th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
First off you are all freaking idiots. If this would never happen in america how do you explain 911, all those duchebags had were box cutters. So before you get all toby keith on us you need to realize that almost all of the general public are freaking pussies in every country, you half retarded redneck turds. Besides, Vince Li just got through watching the highlander “there can be only one”
May 23rd, 2010 at 7:41 am
To all the idiotic yanks berating the Canadians for being cowardly and ridiculously fantasising that they, the one true heroes of the world (have you ever actually won a war on your own?), the simple fact is this nutter suddenly assaulted the guy and with pace stabbed him repeatedly, the poor victim was killed, had the passengers not had the wherewithal and quick wit to act like they indeed had, Christ knows how many more would have been carved up.
As slaphappy points out, measly micro box cutters seemed to beat an entire plane full of heroic yanks…
Having made a vast economy from the pain of the poorer neighbouring countries enables them to purchase the most powerful long range weaponry available, by bombing the shit out of far flung shitholes with very little infrastructure from a relatively safe remote location does in no way define the term ‘brave’.
Then again, myself being British, arms me with the knowledge that in the 1st Iraq war we lost more casualties to ‘friendly fire’ from the heroic battle savvy yanks then from enemy fire.
Yanks appear to be great YeeHaw armchair generals (1000cal doughnut in hand), though admittedly they do have absolutely devasting long range warheads, they are however absolutely clueless when it comes to close quarters combat as any non-US military personnel will attest.
Always found it fascinating myself that Canadians have more guns per capita then their US inbred neighbours yet have a fraction of the murder rate,no culture, no brains with guns, tis a bad mix indeed.
June 30th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Lovely! Off with their heads! Very well-done!
August 16th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
They should flay this guy’s skin off of his entire body, then throw him into a cage with a starving wild lion.
August 21st, 2010 at 6:20 am
i WANT TO DO THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO VINCENT CHIN TO VINCENT LI AND THEN START EATING VINCENT LI
November 22nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Clearly the only solution to this is to END IMMIGRATION.
Immigrants are making their way to Canada to take Jobs from Canadians or because they are fleeing their countries where they are in trouble with the law for doing things like this Asian did to Tim McClean.
November 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
After reading through a few more of the comments above I have to say that I’m disgusted by the people who would attempt to suggest there are any good Asian or other immigrants. You people should take a minute to stop and make a mental picture of Tim McClean’s decapitated head with blood dripping from it and of Chinese Immigrant Li using a pair of scissors to cut off pieces of Tim McCleans body and skin and eating it.
Shame of you above for suggesting any immigrant is good.
December 11th, 2010 at 2:18 am
To all the peeps on tha globe
People just need to stop the hatred, despite whatever situation they’re in. Of course, it’s only naturally human to have hate in your heart, and horrible things still happen, but in the end, no one truly wins unless there is peace.
Everyone makes a few shitty mistakes, but hating on someone doesn’t get you anywhere. All I can do is hope and pray that our world can learn to get along. Yeah everyone knows that achieving world peace has been and still is really difficult, but trying helps out a lot more than most think. Whoever is reading this comment of me venting, I hope you can understand this. Currently, world peace should be a top priority among us. Eliminate the hate my friends.
R.I.P Tim Mcclean
May 31st, 2011 at 3:39 am
Reading most comments, it clearly shows why we have people killing other people like animals.
Most of you sound like Illiterate-Inbred Weirdos!! Bunch of Morons!!!
And “We” wonder why???
By the way, responding to this the same way that most of the above comments have, will only prove me right. So I encourage you to do so.
@Concerned Canadian – Unless you are pure Canadian Native, your family and “literally” yourself are Immigrants. You sound like a dumb Beaver you Idiot.
September 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
I was shocked to see what had happened to tim mclean..i feel for his mom and dad..my sister was murdered in port coquitlam in 1985 and never has been solved. she was unrecognized. i live in no closure of my late sister pauline eliza johnson.. my wish is to have closure on her and she left behind three beautiful kids. paul,chrystal an sam..all now grown with lots of kids.. she would have had loved watchin her kids grow up.. i helped raise paul my neph and R.I.P. my sister Pauline Eliza Johnson..wish someone could help me solve this case..no one seems to want to help me.. till them R.I.P Tim McLean..