Smiley Face Murders – The Smiley Face gang have committed 40 murders in 11 states with the loose-knit gang of killers leaving a smiley face and mystery clue where they dumped each young man in the water, including the breakthrough clue, Sinsinawa.
The Smiley Face murders were cracked by retired NYC detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte who conducted their own investigation into the random murders of young men last seen leaving bars or college parties before going missing and being found drowned months later.
In their investigation of the gang of smiley face killers, the detectives made a chilling discovery as they backtracked from where each victim’s body was found to where they believe it was placed in the water.
At many locations, they found a smiley face painted on a nearby rock, often with smiley face gang member’s nicknames added as graffiti, and obscure clues like “Sinsiniwa” that they found while looking into a Michigan drowning case.
The detectives were puzzled by “Sinsiniwa” and couldn’t figure out the obscure clue until they went to Dubuque, Iowa a few months later to investigate another possible smiley face murder, that of a college student named Matt Kuzinski whose body was found on Sinsiniwa Ave.
Because the smiley face gang would plant evidence such as wallets or cell phones far away from where they actually dumped their victim’s unconscious bodies in the water, local police following up on the missing person’s reports would assume the young men were accidental drowning victimes instead of deliberate murders.
In fact, 39 of the 40 cases investigated by retired NYC detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte are still classified as drownings and only one, that of Chris Henkins of Minneapolis, has been labeled a homicide.
The smiley face gang is loosely connected via the Internet and various members meet up, kidnap young college-age men off the street by throwing them into a waiting cargo van, then torture their victims for hours before dumping the unconscious young men into a nearby river.
The smiley face and associated graffiti is their method of bragging about what they’ve done and the water washes away all the DNA evidence.
There may be many more victims and retired detectives Gannon and Duarte have gone public with what they know in hopes of getting an FBI task force assigned to catch these killers.
And that’s the latest news on the Smiley Face Murders.
Tags: sinsiniwa, smiley face gang, smiley face killers, smiley face murders
April 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
My daughters boyfriend had left a party at the Blue Bird Bar in Leland, MI, last seen walking home. He was later found dead in the river, what police called an “apparent Suicide”. We all know he was murdered since Chris had so much to live for and would have chosen a more effective method of suicide then wading into a cold Oct river hoping to kill himself. I heard this story on Coast to Coast AM and was deeply moved…….perhaps we will now find some sort of closure.
April 26th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Very strange. I had not heard about this until last night. I should point out that there’s been a mysterious disappearance at Middlebury College that fits the pattern, a young good looking man last seen leaving a party at 11 PM, with a big river nearby, with divers going through it with a fine-toothed comb. No body yet, though. Haven’t heard about any smiley faces. Maybe I’ll make a trip up there and poke around.
So that would make 12 states.
http://www.middlebury.edu/administration/garza
April 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
We have a case here, similar. June 2006, a young man disappeared from the boardwalk in OC ,MD.
http://someoneismissing.com/maryland/nicholas-gochnour.htm
April 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Last night’s show blew me away. Since the late 90’s I knew there was something weird about all the young men found in the Mississippi river around Lacrosse since I live in Wisconsin and heard about them on the news, but I never imagined it could be something like this. Insanity is what it is. I can’t help thinking about all the “possible” cases that may be related. I’m interested in how this story will develop.
A couple of interesting points. If these were accidents, then surely there would also be females ending up in rivers too. I also thought it was interesting when a caller mentioned a possible connection to The Son of Sam. Supposedly Berkowitz claimed there was a satanic worship cult active in the midwest and mentioned Wisconsin as one place where they are active. Don’t know if that is true, but since they mentioned many of these accidents / murders occurred around October I found that interesting as that would definitely be a time that satanic worshipers would be active.
April 26th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Just several days ago, the body of Joshua Szostak, a 21 year old man who went missing after a night at a bar with friends on December 22 2007 washed up in the Hudson River in Coxsackie, NY.
This has the same M.O. A well-liked college kid whose cause of death was ruled as ‘accidental drowning’, which just does not sit right with most people.
Thorough investigations into these disappearances are NEEDED by dedicated men like Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte. Let us hope, for the families’ sake, this CRUCIAL task force IS created!
April 26th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Here is ANOTHER one . . but this guy was NOT in college–stranger similarities—:
Tampa, Florida – Bouquets of flowers and fruit from Thailand now float in the pond where the body of 34-year-old Timothy Chipley was found Friday.
Saturday, friends gathered at the pond, which is in the middle of an apartment complex in Carrollwood, to remember the expert martial artist with a passion for work and working out.
Investigators are not classifying his death as a homicide.
Chipley – who also went by ‘Chip’ – was last seen last Saturday night when he joined a group of friends at O’Brien’s Irish Pub in Carrollwood.
His friends left, but Chipley stayed on to talk with some women he’d met. Surveillance video showed Chipley still at the bar at 2 a.m.
Days later, Chipley didn’t show up to work.
Then, Wednesday, he missed a flight to Thailand, where he had planned to go to prepare for a martial arts competition.
Friday evening, someone spotted something peculiar in a pond at the Countrywood Apartments on North Dale Mabry. Dive teams went into the water and pulled out a body that was later identified as Chipley’s. The complex is less than half a mile from O’Brien’s.
April 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
The story last night gave me chills. Recently in Charlotte, North Carolina a college boy that graduated high school with my sister went missing, the body hasn’t yet been found, but the similarities in the disappearance just gave me goose bumps. He was last seen (by security cameras) leaving a bar alone, happy, good-looking kid with lots to look forward to. He never even made it to his car, although he apparently made phone calls (didn’t leave messages) as late as an hour after he left the bar and tracking the calls showed that he stayed in a small radius from the bar. Makes you wonder if this isn’t happening in all 50 states on some scale. Chilling.
April 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Look for the Walking man also known as Randall Flagg…He wears a Smiley face button on his jacket…his other name is Legion….
April 27th, 2008 at 3:45 am
Edmonton Alberta, Canada: For nine days in August 2006 the story of Robert Barrington Leigh’s disappearance. Robert was also found in a river with no apparent reason for his disappearance or drowning. Could this also be related? The same MO, good looking college kid out biking where he could easily be abducted with nobody around. He goes missing for days then suddenly is found in the river.
April 27th, 2008 at 7:07 am
I’m from Mn; I remember reading about a couple of these local(Mn/Wi) drownings. These were reported in the Mpls Star Tribune. I had a feeling they were connected; then I heard the C2C- am radio show. It’s great to know there are some dedicated lawmen still out there; whether on/off the job, active/retired. I hope they get these sicko’s.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Thoughts and Prayers to all of the families left behind to wonder……….. Have the police tried placing a young decoy in a bar close to a waterway where young college guyz hang out? Perhaps have a decoy even wear a smiley face pin to acknowledge the fact that a connection has been made. It would only take one time for someone to make a mistake and then if it is internet connected everything would be revealed.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:25 am
What is truly disturbing about all of this is the high level of incompetence with all of these police forces investigating these cases. Drunk people simply do not wander into rivers and lakes. It just doesnt happen. And drowning yourself in icy freezing water isnt a very good way to commit suicide.
Shame on these police forces for doing such a poor job. The fact that these victims are always the EXACT same should have raised red flags a long time ago.
Im a young male from MPLS, so this strikes very close to home. Hopefull these amazing retired detectives will crack this case soon before any others die.
April 27th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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April 27th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
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Perhaps this is connected? What about the USMA cadet who disappeared and drowned a couple of years ago after being charged with a DUI?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
When I was in college at Ball State back in 1993 there was a guy in my friends doem that turned up missung after walking home from a party. He was found floating in the White river I want to say a week later. The police first ruled it a suicide and then said it was an accidental drowning. We all knew this guy wouldn’t kill himself and there was know way he would be playing around by the river by hisself in the middle of the night. We all figured that he got into it with some locals and they threw him in the river. I hope they go to Muncie Indiana and look into this. Every police force around the country and maybee even Canada needs to open up their books and look into all cases like this because I think were just at the tip of the iceberg. If these were women every branch of LE would be on this and it would be all over the TV. We need to make some noice and try to get some national news coverage on this. If this is as wide spread as it seems to be getting somebody knows of someone who could be a possible victim.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:21 am
I also heard the c2c program, and live in one of the towns that are included in these events. The police insist these are drunk drowning, that these young men get confused and fall in and die. I grew up in this town, and never in my over 50 yrs remeber anything like this hapening until these deathes started. Perhaps the smileyface tags are what the police are leaving out of the publics knowledge. I personally think and always have thought that there is more fishy business going on than the river.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:10 am
“Look for the Walking man also known as Randall Flagg…He wears a Smiley face button on his jacket…his other name is Legion…”
From Stephen King’s The Stand
April 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Wow, it sounds like a horror movie. What was it “hostel?”
April 28th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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April 28th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I remember a kid in lowell, mass. supposedly jumped off a bridge there 2 years ago. I dont know if they found him, but read this; looks kind of suspicious. Looks like he had everything going for him.
http://www.dracutforum.net/2006/11/28/ron-wetmore/
April 28th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
remember a kid in lowell, mass. supposedly jumped off a bridge there 2 years ago. I dont know if they found him, but read this; looks kind of suspicious. Looks like he had everything going for him.
http://www.dracutforum.net/2006/11/28/ron-wetmore/
April 28th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
They are linking the death of Adam Falcon, a student St. Lawrence University in Canton, NY, to these crimes.
The MO sounds reasonable for this case, with one exception: Adam’s BAC was .21 when he was autopsied. If the “gang” abducted their prey and drove around for hours torturing them, how is it possible that his BAC was so high at autopsy? Unless the torture included forcing alcohol down their victim’s throats… Perhaps, that’s the point. Now I’ve got myself second guessing my second guessing….
April 29th, 2008 at 5:49 am
What’s the deal with the Stephen King references? Do you think these sick bastards–if they are real–are somehow being influenced by the character Randall Flagg? I haven’t read the book so I wouldn’t know.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Smiley Face Murders – News Video
April 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
From the Watertown Daily Times:
Police chief: SLU student wasn’t victim of serial killer
By JAMES R. DONNELLY
TIMES STAFF WRITER
TUESDAY, APRIL 29, 2008
CANTON — A claim that a St. Lawrence University student who drowned in the Grasse River after a night of heavy drinking might have been the victim of a nationwide gang of serial killers is absurd, according to Canton’s police chief.
“It’s absolutely ludicrous,” Alan P. Mulkin said after “Good Morning America” on ABC television featured a story Monday morning linking the death of Adam M. Falcon to about 40 similar deaths among college students.
Mr. Falcon, a third-year student and member of the university’s varsity men’s soccer team, disappeared in November 2004 after leaving Tick Tock Inn in downtown Canton. His body was found in the Grasse River after a massive, five-day search. An autopsy put his blood alcohol content at 0.21 percent. The death of the 20-year-old student was ruled an accident.
“I am sure we did a thorough and competent investigation with the help of numerous state and local agencies and came to the right conclusion,” Mr. Mulkin said. “This death was the outcome of alcohol abuse.”
The televised report, which originated with a Mineappolis, Minn., television station, was based on a theory offered by two retired New York City police detectives, Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte. They claimed a possible link between the death of University of Minnesota college student Chris Jenkins in 2002 and as many as 40 other river deaths, including that of Mr. Falcon.
If the deaths are linked, Mr. Mulkin said, it is not by a gang of serial killers but rather by things that are common in many college towns.
“What do all these communities have in common? Colleges, rivers and booze,” the police chief said.
April 29th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
I’ve also noticed with reasonable awareness that these missing/drowned young men have been showing up more and more often.
I am wondering a few things though.
1) No medical examination mentions any drowning evidence (such as lung tissue). They are all reported as “suspected” drownings.
2) It bothers my sense of justice that the FBI has continued to dismiss the obvious links to these suspicious deaths. Why? 3) I know they are unrelated but the fact that the FBI has also ignored the FLDS victims for so many years doesn’t give me any comfort that they even work full-time jobs.
3) Why do these caring, devoted, hard working, sometimes retired cops have to mortgage their own homes to keep investigatin? Why no mention of Attnys General involvement?
4) As a mother of a son, I am more than outraged!
April 29th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I am also not convinced of the local police “thorough and competant” investigations, since Chris Jenkins went for years as a closed drowning case. Then for no documented reason turns into a “homicide”.
April 29th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
I was just wondering if any of the bodies in all these cases mentioned, had any other injuries or forced bruises on them?
Wouldn’t that be a clear cut signal that something happened other than drowning?
April 29th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
This story gave me major chills, but when I saw the comment from someone regarding a missing young man from Ocean City, MD I got double chills.
My sons father Tom died in August of 2003 in OC, MD in what was classified as an accidental drowning. We were all suspicious because he was great swimmer, he had been in the Navy and was a fisherman, but because there was no sign of foul play we had to except it. Hearing this story makes me wonder if maybe we weren’t right.
Tom was 40 when this happen and he wasn’t missing for days or months, but everything else matches. He was out with friends and when he was ready to head home instead of taking his boat he was going to get a cab. It’s obvious this never happen because he was last seen getting gas for his boat about 1:30 AM. His body was found around 8:30 AM in the bay not far from where the boat was dock and his wallet was not on him but found somewhere near the docks.
I realize this doesn’t completely match the MO, but it does make you wonder. How can you get a hold of these detectives to see what they think? Are there any cases being questioned in Maryland?
April 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
We had a young man drown in the Papio Creek watershed one night, supposedly after he left a bar in Omaha. Nebraska was not one of the listed states ont he lists, but the Papio Creek is hardly deep enough for a drunk not o crawl out on his hands and knees in most places during most months. Makes you o=wonder if they might have expanded to another state?
April 29th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/constanzo.htm
Check out this story, reading it all. Years ago a similar string of murders developed along the Mexican US border and was not discovered until many years later to be a satanic ritual performed by Mexican drug cartel members. It started out on locals in Mexico and later developed into hunting down college aged blond hair blue eyed Americans. They where kidnapped, tortured, and later killed and their bodies dumped – some in water.
Coincidence?? If you already are not aware there are many Mexican drug cartel members present across the US and many still believe in the satanic….
I would think this worth investigating….just a thought….
April 30th, 2008 at 12:59 am
So I live in LaCrosse, WI, where SEVERAL river deaths have occured. This story has all come as quite a shock. We don’t have a lot of graffiti in the area so I’m thinking if there was a big smiley face drawn/painted/carved or whatever these so-called “Smiley Face Gang” members are leaving…would be noticed. Why wouldn’t there be more pics of the areas the bodies were found? You know, being in a river town and having several PARTY HEARTY friends…I’m NOT surprised at all the deaths and drownings. A serial killer? A smiley face gang? Are these detectives for real? Why are detectives beating around the bush telling us half @$$’d stories? You know, I appreciate them doing what they’re doing trying to solve mysterious and stuff. That’s great! We need real life Scooby Doo Mystery Solvers. I get it…But why not tell us more than just that there’s smiley faces left at the scene of the crime? O’really? If there’s 40 with smiley faces what do all 40 smiley faces look like? Being in LaCrosse, WI, where there has been several deaths…This freaks the hell out of a lot of people!!!!!!!! I can’t stop but think about who these so-called “Smiley Face Killers” are? Are they are neighbors? Are they people that don’t even live in this area? OMG! This is all so freaky!!!!!
April 30th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Apparently some of the victims had ligature marks on their wrists. Also I remember when the first NYC case happened and many people turned out to search for the missing man. I seem to recall something about a van that was seen near the bar. The theory being that he was lured into it and dumped. Another theory is that these men are given GHB, which makes them easy to manipulate. The Chris Jenkins death is most suspicious because they found a wad of human hair in his clenched fist. He was wearing clogs which were still attached to his feet which would seem to rule out that he was awake when he entered the water or that he had jumped, as the clogs would likely come off. He seemed to have been very carefully placed in the water. There is also and eeiry resemblance to the Watchmen graphic novel poster of a smiley face with red blood splattered on its forehead and the red smiley graffitti tag near one of the crime scenes.
An interesting idea is suggested to by the book “Ultimate Evil” by Maury Terry who gives credible and creepy evidence of santanists across the country who work in groups and kill for ritual and initiation or profit, especially around certain times of the year. It doesn’t seem coincidental that Jenkins died Halloween night. Other smiley murders are also linked by time of year.
April 30th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Perhaps someone should check out the recent death of John Schnicke from Sheboygan Falls (Wisconsin) whose body was recently found 3 miles from where they thought he went in. Although he was past college age, the rest of the circumstances are chillingly familiar. Also, this is just about 4 miles from where they found Nathan Herr. Maybe I’m wrong, but it would be worth checking into.
April 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Student’s body just discovered today in a small pond 100 yards from Ithaca College main campus. He disappeared early Sunday morning after leaving a party. Although authorities have “rule out foul play,” I am convinced that he was murdered. If anyone can forward this to either detective Gannon or Duarte that would be awesome. Here is the article for anyone who is interested:
http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080430/NEWS01/80430002
April 30th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
has anyone thought about asking psychics to help
April 30th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Something that was posted earlier made me wonder (read response #6), do you think this supposed Gang of Serial Killers might include one or a few female accomplices?? I mean if the victims were abducted, could they have been lured by an attractive female(s)? Sort of like the movie Hostel. Do you think this might be a possibility??
April 30th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
One possible survivor: a college student in LaCrosse, WI woke up in the Mississippi naked. He had no memory since leaving a bar at 1 or 2 am. In a foggy/confused state of mind, he walked a pretty long distance to Gunderson Lutheran Hospital. He had no major injuries and BAC of less than .1 (though hours after he stopped drinking). Rumors circulated that he was the one lucky survivor of the killers. At that time, there was no public knowledge of the Smiley Face Gang. If someone did try to kill him, why didn’t they succeed this time? What made his case special? Something to consider…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:20 am
Very creepy! Several blogs have added A LOT of info to what the Jenkins family and Gannon had to say. The Sope-Bocks blog has a list of names, a couple of theories and lots of other stuff. I’m printing it out, so I can cross-reference what that guy has written. I think he missed some things, but he does have some of the most in depth data available right now.
Huffpo and a coupla others are developing the story, too. I think you and other bloggers are going to break this case wide open.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:33 am
By all the victims being non-black and non-hispanic, and male, I would say there is a definite RACIAL/gender…..motivation to the killings. Why will the “liberal” media not report this? I would guess it’s a black or hispanic gang. Not far fetched considering how violent these gangs often are.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:40 am
If alcohol abuse leads to young people walking into rivers and dying accidently…as many claim….then why aren’t we seeing a lot of females washing up? Why aren’t we seeing a lot of young black men washing up? Are you saying only young white men (and maybe one oriental man) walk into rivers after drinking too much??? How ABSURD!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I saw the body of a young man being pulled from the Milwaukee River last summer. The story was that he was in town for a NML convention, unfamiliar with the river, and fell in drunk and drowned. When I watched the dive squad pull his body from the river, I was struck by one thing: He still had his flip flops on. And the divers gave his mother, standing ashore, his gold watch. It was terrible.
I thought the same thing as Kelly Garrett in a previous post. He had to be out cold not to kick off his flops in an effort to swim ashore. Think about it. You hear that a cold shower will “sober you up,” falling in an icy river would do the trick too.
I think they should be checking these victims for needle marks. Or bruising around the mouth and anus. The only way for these men to have BAC that high is by force- enema, injection, or apriation/ingestion.
I actually have a friend who knew Chris Jenkins, and I used to live in LaCrosse, so this will be my third connection to these crimes.
The man who I now suspect was murdered in Milwaukee was Max Walker. Here’s a link to his story.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Smiley Face Murders – NYC Origins
12 smiley faces have been found at drowning scenes in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Wisconsin and Iowa.
The crude drawings vary in size, shape and color and at least one had a chilling message written next to it: “The evil, happy, smiley man.”
The killings happen in regional clusters – not unlike the time four young men in New York city went missing and then surfaced dead in waters surrounding the five boroughs in 1997 and 1998.
Those were the first of the smiley face murders…
May 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
re: The Chipley case in Tampa
I just read in the paper today it has been officially declared homicide.
I’m tempted to go over to the apartment complex where he was found and see if there are any smiley faces.
May 2nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
I just read this on Beagle Scout , any truth to it?
Grand theft Auto (the game) has gang members that tag the locations of their victums with Smiley faces.
Check out Beagle Scout and give me your thoughts. This guy doesn’t think it is a serial murder(s) but I do and he could have just given a clue, if anyone plays GTA can you confirm the similarities? Thanks.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 pm
My 19 year old, physically fit nephew was found in a retention pond near his home last fall. He had been at a party recently and we know that Anthony would have never taken his own life for reasons too lengthy to go into in this type of forum. We have never believed his death an accidental drowning either, which is what the local authorities in Mason, OH have ruled his death. I would be interested to know if there is any possible connection. Here is the story from the local news.
Police identify 19-year-old who drowned in Mason pond
By Denise G. Callahan
Staff Writer
Monday, October 08, 2007
Mason police said the man found in a retention pond Saturday morning drowned.
Police on Monday identified the man as Anthony M. Pantona, 19, of Mason. The Warren County Coroner’s Office determined the cause of death. No foul play is suspected, but the death is still under investigation, according to police.
At around 10 a.m. Saturday, joggers in the subdivision by Terrace Drive and Mason-Montgomery Road saw the body of a white male floating in a retention pond in a subdivision at Mason-Montgomery Road and Terrace Drive.
Mason Police Chief Ron Ferrell said there were some delays over the weekend in contacting the man’s family to confirm his identity.
Any questions or information may be directed to detectives Don Cope or Toni Hoelke with the Mason Police Department at (513) 229-8560 or (513) 695-2525.
Contact this reporter at (513) 696-4525 or dcallahan@coxohio.com.
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 am
In 5 of the 40 cases, bodies have not been found. This can also be said for the Charlotte, NC case of Kyle Fleischmann and a similar case in Duluth, GA of Justin Gaines. Both are not considered part of the 40 smiley face murders, but you have to wonder, both of them were young, good looking men who disappeared. Both had been out drinking at bars, and neither has been heard from since. I wouldn’t doubt if this goes far beyond the 40 cases and covers all states. Such a sad world we live in…
Kyle: http://helpfindkyle.com/
Justin: http://justingaines.com/
May 3rd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I saw a segment about his on FOX news the other night. One of the 11 crime states shown on the map was Washington State. Does anyone know who, what, where or when the connection to the Smiley face murders in Washington State area?
I was also thinking that this might be it:
“Bridge plunge cause of death for Ozzie’s patron”
http://www.pacificpublishingcompany.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=18705803&BRD=855&PAG=461&dept_id=513931&rfi=6
“Body found under Magnolia Bridge identified as missing Seattle man”
Link
May 4th, 2008 at 2:38 am
I don’t quite understand how the cargo van and torture conclusions were reached. If someone was tortured for hours wouldn’t there be some obvious signs?
I just heard about this story today and there’s probably much more I haven’t read; but, I don’t see where the van and the torture conclusively fit in.
Anyone know? Thanks.
May 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
This story is HOAX! Sure the murders are real, and my heart goes out to the survivors, but the rest is a fake. I bet some cops who wanted notoriety planted evidence.
May 4th, 2008 at 11:19 am
“One possible survivor: a college student in LaCrosse, WI woke up in the Mississippi naked. He had no memory since leaving a bar at 1 or 2 am. In a foggy/confused state of mind, he walked a pretty long distance to Gunderson Lutheran Hospital. He had no major injuries and BAC of less than .1 (though hours after he stopped drinking). Rumors circulated that he was the one lucky survivor of the killers. At that time, there was no public knowledge of the Smiley Face Gang. If someone did try to kill him, why didn’t they succeed this time? What made his case special? Something to consider…”
Total BS! Stop making things up! If he woke up like that as a result of an attempted murder and its part of a ‘conspiracy’ then where is the smiley face this time? Something’s fishy. I say this whole story is a fake!
May 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I had not heard about this until today when a girl I work with mentioned it. It sent chills up my spine and took me back to the Fall of 1998 when I was a student at Virginia Tech. There was a friend of a friend of mine at Virginia Tech who simply vanished. He left his apartment near the Virginia Tech campus on a Friday afternoon to drive home to West Virginia where he was scheduled to attend a WVU football game in Morgantown on Saturday…he never made it to his parents house.
It is known that he stopped at an ATM machine near the Virginia Tech campus and withdrew cash, and he is believed to have stopped for gas at a convenience store on Route 460 between Blacksburg and the West Virginia State line. He has not been seen or heard from since. His muddy vehicle was found abandoned and out of gas in the vicinity of the New River Gorge bridge in West Virginia. Rob’s friends and roomates insist that he always kept his vehicle spotless and that he never would have let it run out of gas. It was also reported that some clothes that were believed to be his were found. To my knowledge this case has never been solved.
Perhaps Rob Kovack was another victim of this killer or killers who was not found. This website has info about the case and pics of Rob. http://caus5.arch.vt.edu/kovack/
May 6th, 2008 at 8:45 am
No. The smiley face is an incredibly common symbol. Children make it, and these smiley faces are nothing alike, despite all being smiley faces. There is no pattern here, and people should grow up. This is not a clue. I hope the police stop wasting my taxpayer money on this dead end.
May 6th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Most of the victims were intelligent, upscale, white males,without any genetic defects, it doesn`t take a brain surgeon to know these serial murders were racially motivated acts of terror perpetrated by a group or groups, whose purpose is to provoke a condition of fear among society, without a doubt ,a threat to the nation at large.Isn`t the division of homeland security, by its very nature, created to investigate such a threat ? And wouldn`t these murders be classified as hate crimes ,under federal law?
May 7th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
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May 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
A few months ago a man in his early 20’s went missing after spending the night at Bootleggers bar here in Delaware Co. PA. (just south of Philly) He was found a few weeks later drowned in the creek behind the bar. He still had his wallet and money but his cell phone hasn’t been found. Recently detectives went back to the scene after reading about the smiley face murders and found one spray painted on the wall underneath the outdoor deck. Coincedence??? Footage from the bar shows him talking to three Hispanic women. Decoys??? Made the cover of the delco times yesterday. Makes you wonder if there is something going on.
May 8th, 2008 at 9:14 am
THIS IS VERY TERRIBLE AND WHY ONLY WHITE GUYS AND NOT OTHER RACES I THINK IT MIGHT BE RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND THEY ARE USING WOMEN AS DECOYS TO KILL THESE INNOCENT PERSONS THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW MOTHERS AND FATHERS PRAY FOR YOUR CHILDREN EVERY CHANCE THAT YOU HAVE THIS IS A CRUEL WORLD
May 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Here’s one that just appeared in Delaware County PA as a result of the show the other night. This has all the pieces of the puzzle! Left bar alone, no struggle, well liked, college bar, no cell phone upon discovery of the body in a creek near by weeks later.
May 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am
In response to the BAC concerns: I have from Minneapolis and have very carefully followed the Chris Jenkins case. His sister wrote something on his website about how his BAC was less than .1 when his body was found. Since bodies act as distillaries, it was the same BAC as he was experiencing his last moments. He was kicked out of the bar for being too drunk. People don’t get kicked out of bars for having a BAC just above the legal limit. And he would not have gone into the Misssissipi River in a October if his BAC was less than .1. People from the Midwest know how cold those waters can get!
Check out his site:
http://www.rememberchrisjenkins.com/
May 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
There was a young white college guy in Fargo ND found a couple years ago, in the river, under similar circumstances. I lived only blocks away at the time and thought it was odd. It was called an accidental drowning. Even though he was drinking, he would have had to wander alone, for several blocks, for no reason, to end up in the river.
May 8th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I need to correct myself. This happened in Moorhead, MN, not Fargo. Moorhead is just across the river.
May 8th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Why would it be racially motivated??
Like aways blame the latinos or the blacks
white people are so full of $#!+
It could of been a group of white gay killers,
who are so facinated with white guys
and they are sexually assaulting these victims
It could of been a regular guy, who hate’s succesfull young
men ,who have everything going on for them.
Somebody from there own schools, who knows.
maybe there is groups or gang member in some colleges
who are looking for victims and nobody knows.
No information about these murders have been realeased
There is no way to know who actuallycommiting these crimes ,so please don’t blame people of other races.Don’t be pointing your white finger to anybody .
May 8th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I went to U of Wi. Lacrosse from 1985 to 1989. It is right on the Mississippi. Trust me when I say that there was no shortage of partying/drinking..etc when I was there.
BUT, even though we were on the banks of the river, I NEVER knew anyone who walked down to the river at the height of, or the end of an evening. particularly by themselves….Seriously…nobody did that. No one died of “suicide” or accidental drowning during my time there. Every year I get together with 8 to 10 of my old roomates and friends from UWL, and this was brought up about 5 years ago. They all still live in various parts of Wisconsin, so they had heard/read much more than I had about the situation. (I live in the Chicago Area) ………….don’t know what else to say…..wierd…..But really, in LaCrosse Wi. the last thing a normal, non suicidal, good looking guy is gonna do is take a inconvenient 3/4 mile stroll in the oposite direction from where he lives and where all the after bar parties are to take in a view of the Mississippi in the middle of the night. By themselves…Maybe one or two accidents..But 7?
May 10th, 2008 at 12:17 am
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May 11th, 2008 at 8:53 am
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May 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
John, do not rule out the possibility of this actually being racially motivated, doing so is just ignorant.
All were white males, fit, popular, and were all living in college towns that have rivers in or close to town.
Since there has not been any black or hispanic victims found, the killer(s) are obviously racially motivated.
They might even by white themselves.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
It seems there must be links between the gender and race in these cases. If there were not then other races would be victims as well.
I am a college graduate that spent many nights drinking near bodies of water and never have I ever thought of closing the night off with a walk by any of these bodies of water. It’s really pretty straight forward, at that time of night men are simple, we either want to eat or get laid, we don’t want to go swimming!
With that said, I have had a few friends who commited suicide and have obviously read about numerous other cases during the course of my life and have never known any of the instances to involve alcohol.
It seems that if you look at this mathmatically, the equation reads as follows… White, athletic guys (resentment towards whites), drowning (cleans away the evidence and is a deep seeded human fear), smiley faces at the scene where there bodies are dumped (females use this type of symbolism more so than men), at least two (possibly more) of the cases show evidence of having conversations with women at the bar.
Logic would say this is a tight knit group of men and women who feel a resentment towards the stereotypical all american white male.
May 13th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
I was just reading all of these comments, and I’d rather not get into it too deep, but a 23 yr. old guy close to home (philly/levittown Pa) was just found in the deleware on the 6th… exactly one month to the day that he dissapeared. his name is Cody Cartilidge. I don’t know details yet, but it got me thinking. Anyway, I wanted to say, I’m a white female, dating a mixed guy, I’m in NO WAY predudice, I also have a mixed 2 yr. old daughter. I would like to comment on the racial point of all this. I think it’s one of 2 things… black or latinos that are commiting hate crimes, or WOMEN who banned together b/c some young, handsome white guy, college age, hurt them and they are being absurd in the way they are exacting thier revenge. This whole situation is sickening… I’m thankful my only son is only turning 7 in a few weeks… he won’t be in college for about 11 years!
May 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Are these guys that are getting killed gay? Is that what they all have in common? Were they on a gay web-site on the internet when they were targeted?
May 15th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
They should put out a poll, in that area, to see how many men have left bars alone and fallen into nearby bodies of water and got out safely. If there are many, then they can assume they’re accidents. If it is unheard of, then we can assume they were homicide. It would be a matter of polling every college male in the last 10 years.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
P.S. I’m thinking gang members. Maybe they have girls go into the bars and lure the guys out or they ask for help from the guys and get ‘em alone. I guess men need to be careful about their personal safety just like women.
May 16th, 2008 at 6:45 am
The level of engrained fear, social/political ignorance and racial bigotry amongst the general population of whites in this country never, EVER ceases to amaze me no matter how often it is thrust into the light of day. Let any terrible fate befall people who look like them and they go completely batsh%t and start blaming anyone in sight of a different color. For those of you out there with at least a remedial level of critical thinking skills(not likely, based on your dumb assed, racist comments), here are a few points I came up with on my own that I hope will curb your terror of the imagined, marauding bands of mudpeople out to kill you all.
1. Find out something about what the hell you’re talking about from more than one source before you suck up crime theories as fact. To date, these “smiley faces” have been found near only a handful of these men’s bodies. If these drawings are the all-important calling cards of a gang of serial killers, making all these deaths attributable to this gang,would they not be found near ALL of the bodies?
2. Before you go accusing groups of black or brown people of luring white folk to their deaths, think about what you know about YOURSELF. You white folks know damned well that the second you see a black or brown male, and especially a black male, heading your way at night, dusk or high noon, your terror color alert systems instantly blaze bright red. The notion that these white men were all lured away by black or brown folks and done away with by them is damned close to pathetic. The notion that this happened continuously outside of bars, college dorms, ect, and no one noticed drunken white males being lured away by anyone other than another white person or persons, have them turn up dead later with no one having seen their colored abductors is beyond stupid.
3. Since you folks are so damned scared of black and brown men, why don’t you do some research on black and latino gangs that amount to more than the batsqueeze you hear on FOX NOISE? See, if you did that, you would know that black and latino gangs primarily kill over territory, revenge over a murdered comrade, debts and disrespect to their brand, perceived or otherwise. Therefore, the vast majority of black gangs kill blacks and latinos likewise. These people may be sociopathic murderers(although the BUSH ADMINISTRATION makes them look like a lemonade stand competing against PepsiCo. in regards to wanton murder), but they know that police in every city in every state of the union goes balls to the wall to apprehend a black or latino male who murders a white person, and these almost NEVER go unsolved with the suspect usually being treated to a death penalty case. So no, HELL no, you don’t find them traveling across 11 states knocking off white folks.
4. Lastly, if you read the F.B.I. assesment of these deaths, you will find that they, like most of the law enforcement agencies who were or are still investigating them DO NOT believe they are the work of a gang of serial killers. That’s probably due to the fact that they simply do not have the evidence to link every single one of them, and also that there have been only a handful of incidents where there were groups of people in the U.S. acting in concert as serial killers. Even the infamous Manson murders were spree killings, and there is a difference. By the way, for all you knee- knocker whites, Charles Manson was, like a lot of you message posters, an ignorant(though very charismatic) racist who ordered his idiotic drone to go and murder people over 2 nights in 1969(or 68) and write the words PIGS and KILL WHITEY at the scene because, according to some of his imprisoned followers, everyone would believe that Black Panther Party types were responsible for these cowardly killings and that this would spark a magnificent race war in which all the blacks would be killed.
All I’m really saying is to think before you talk. Anyone can be an ass over the internet; why don’t you learn about what’s being discussed and then comment so you can truly stand out?
May 18th, 2008 at 12:33 am
I do want to say something. Never accept anything that is more than you need in America. People here, and I mean NO ONE, gives anything in America without reason. On a freezing cold night in Chicago, my friend was walking home with no coat, and accepted a ride home from a pretty woman in her late 20s early 30s. When she got him to his building, she stopped, but she tried to come onto him, but he respectfully spurned her. According to his story she was not easily appeased, and definitely wanted to take him somewhere to “get” with him. He declined. After this happened we learned about two things, one is that a prostitution ring is known to operate in downtown Chicago where the pros pick up bar walkers, not the other way around, and the other was reading about the sheer number of people that disappear across the USA on their way home from having some drinks. Don’t judge on looks, they will deceive you.
May 18th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Check out the “Zebra Killings” in LA back in the 70’s. Black Muslim types tortured and murdered an undetermined number of White people. They got scores for their kills. The case was finally cracked, but since it was only Whites being systematically murdered it got no play in the media and became one of the first “hush” crimes. Considering the Whites in general in the USA are politically out of favor and culturally despised by all the other groups, as well as 50 years of vilification by the propaganda media (Hollywood, TV, etc.) it is not implausible that a non White group is eliminating White males, the most despised category of the lot. White’s are so timid they will do anything to keep from being called racist by all the other racist groups that they will not unite to defend against these atrocities, for now.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:07 am
With all the exploration of racial and gender possibilities, hasn’t anyone else thought of the aspect of sexuality? The target is clearly young men (not all of whom are white!), and they are not just drowned. If you read more about these crimes elsewhere, you will see the pre-mortum torture is in some cases prolific. I am not a psychologist, but I am surprised that not many people seem to be considering the idea that it is a crime of sick sexual gratification, in which case who knows what the profile of the perpetrators would be?
May 20th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
There is an interesting theory on these murders on another forum, where they have found links between most of the cities which have had deaths in with a company called Trane. They seem to think a Trane technician fits the profile of a possible killer, would be traveling about, have reason to be in the areas, have the means and methods to abduct and kill these people. They have even done research and found dates linking the possible influx of Trane technicians in certain areas with would coincide with the deaths of these students. They also seem to claim some sort of link between when the deaths appeared to start happening with when the Government started pushing upgrades with its public sectors like Universities to become more Green which would of resulted in more work for the Trane techs in these areas. If you think that these are the work of a serial killer then you should read up on this theory, as i only heard about this story in an english paper last week and this seems like it could be a realistic enough to sell me on the idea. Sounds far more likely then the old Satanic Rituals being run by Bush, Osama and Aliens which seem to be doing the rounds as well.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:39 am
Sounds like rubbish. Smiley faces found near a river? Big deal. Just shows that kids hang out there, probably swim there too. Drunk guy goes night swimming and dies. happens all the time.
Big deal.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Albie, are you serious? One of the guys was a New Yorker. If you think ANYONE goes swimming in the two rivers that service this city, you are insane.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:01 pm
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May 21st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I bet the “group of killers” are just a bunch of sickos who have decided to copycat each other. It was probably just started out with one guy, then another guy heard about it and got the idea of leaving a smiley face and so on and so forth. I doubt that there is a group of killers stashed among 11 states. It is probably just a couple psychopaths who have decided to create some fear by appearing that there is a larger satanic group of killers. This could also be why they could get away with it so easily because they don’t have contact with each other and are simply copycatting another guy’s idea. However it could just be a group of guys who saw one too many Rob Zombie movies
May 21st, 2008 at 11:42 pm
As some one who is interested in occult matters I feel that many of these cases are a result of a national satanic group, (most likely dabblers who roughly know what they are doing yet, outsiders of society who have a grudge against a stereotyped male model per say) networking and coordinating massive ritualistic sacrifices. Questions to look into are; what is the estimated date and time of death of the victims? satanic cults are very ritualistic they will coordinate so-called sacrifices like clockwork. Mostly line up with pagan/ christian holidays, full moons/ new moons, halloween (hugh holiday for satanists) etc… Are there any other markings on the victims, bruises, cuts (wrists & neck), or signs of sexual abuse? Was the blood drained from the body? What blood types? The smiley face is another sign that leads me to think that this may of satanic origin, they reverse symbolism, making a pleasant symbol of happiness and relating it to the complete opposite. What were the ages all the victims? How many letters are in their names? Geography of the area they were found i.e. energetic grids, magnetism, ley lines. Are they a church or holy ground in the area? Many questions and as the investigators said they’re out of funds. It will be most interesting to see were this leads in the years to come, I give the investigators my full support, but I am afraid that if these cases (Most cases) are “homicides” which i believe they are and the FBI are not in a hurry to do any REAL investigations themselves then it leads me to say that it doesn’t surprise me at all because of the fact that they know whats going on and are going to do a thing about it, those satanist bastards, and for those who reads this and think what i’m talking about is crazy, then i say WAKE UP PEOPLE – do the home work yourselves
May 21st, 2008 at 11:57 pm
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May 22nd, 2008 at 1:01 am
My wife told me about these killings or accidental deaths. Then I just got done watching Anderson’s show 360. From the evidence that the retired police officers have brought forward I believe they might be right. The murderers seem to be bold and almost bragging. The big question is why a smiley face? If this is their trade mark they are probably bragging about it. Look at license plates and other smiley face items that these sick individuals might display or “show off”.
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:51 am
I just read about this tonight on CNN. It fascinated me as it reminded me of someone who disappeared from Ohio State a couple years ago, and a string of incidents at OU about 9 or 10 years ago. Anyway I came across this message on craig’s list:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/com/689729266.html
It gave me chills.
May 22nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
oh my lord a young man from our town went missing on dec.23rd his name was joshua szostak and was found a few weeks ago in the hudson river way far from where he was missing it really scares the hell outta me
May 22nd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I first heard about the “Smiley face murders” a few weeks ago on the news. Today the story was featured on the AOL homepage. After reading that article, I decided to do some furthur reading. I may be wrong, and if I am I apologize in advance, but from what I can tell, the article on this page is a bit irresponsible. Althought it seems likely that all of these deaths (app. 40) do seem related and do not seem accidental, this article presents it as FACT and not THEORY. The article states that “The Smiley Face gang have committed 40 murders” — this is a definative statement. This is not Fact. It has only been speculated that the 40 deaths are connected, and that they were commited by a gang and not an individual. The article aslo says: “The Smiley Face murders were cracked by retired NYC detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte…” They may have put some additional peices together, but the case certainly was not “cracked”.
The article continues to say: “The smiley face gang is loosely connected via the Internet and various members meet up, kidnap young college-age men off the street by throwing them into a waiting cargo van, then torture their victims for hours before dumping the unconscious young men into a nearby river.” Where did the author get this information? Again, this is speculation and is irresponsible to present it as fact. Anyone who read only this article would be seriously misinfromed. The young man form Minneapolis is Chris Jenkins, not Henkins. The FBI still is not convinced that these 40 cases are related or even homocides. I like to be INformed, not MISinformed. The cases of these 40 young men are a serious situation and I think this article has done a seriously poor job in presenting Facts. This is very poor journalism.
May 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I saw that Craigslist post too, Vince. Strange.It was from
Manhatten, NY. Also, if you google “evil happy smiley guy” there is an internet comic strip that looks to be out of Canada with that character and his allies and him have a van, it says. He is an “evil” character. Hmmm wonder if anyone has asked the creator about it?
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Isn’t it stupid to have all this media attention? If there’s no link between the people that were murdered then there’s a good chance the whole damn thing is all for media attention, so let’s not give the freaking killers what they want.
May 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I live in Edmonton, Canada, and all the media attention on this subject has started a kind of smiley cult. I’m not in it, but they are having a huge impact on the school. I don’t think they will murder people, but just the fact that people imitate those killers is sick, not to mention scary.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 am
my brother was found drowned in lafayette IN on march 12,08. he had been missing since march 8,08. he was last seen leaving a bar call the end zone. he was 35 but look younger. lafayette is a collage town like where it seems all these deaths are happening. his car was found as if it had been run off the road at a stop signing on a road he travled daily. the police where called to the seen and say they looked for him. they say they had the dogs out looking for him. found nothing. he was know where to be found. fly overs nothing. then 4 day later his boby appears drowned half in half out of wae creek. 800 hunderd yards from where his car was found wracked 4 days before. in plain view from the seen of the car wrack. his name was joel thomas saunders. i think he should be add to the smily face murders??? me and my family have talked to the indiana state police,locale police, FBI lafayette indiana. they all say he was drunk, crashed , fell in a creek and drowned.. where was he the 4 days he was missing? they did not look or he was not there!! they dont wont to look in to this because they dont want people to think this happened in there happy little town!! but the FACTED is it probably did. but like i said google joel thomas saunders and read about it and tell me what you think. you can contact me at jbrent2001@yahoo.com.
May 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I’m an ex-cop and this whole thing has me concerned. The fundamental tenet of doing ANY investigation is to leave your mind open to all possibilities until you prove every possibility is patently and completely wrong – then what you have left, no matter how crazy, no matter how wild, or even how mundane – is as near to the truth as you can get. The FBI, and local police seem to have a closed mind on what the possibilities are. They have been given a string of possibilities and have publicly denounced them, seemingly without the open mind of investigation. Like our single-minded President, they are going to “stay the course” and they are declaring “mission accomplished” by saying these are all non-coincidental self drownings which are a result of wreckless drunkenness. It’s unfortunate that these two NY cops are saying “what the hell…”, hey look at these co-incidences, look at them closely, evaluate them for evidence. Smiley faces, admittedly, are common forms of drawings, however, I don’t see smiley faces splattered all over every tree I come in contact with, I don’t see them particularly near or in school yards or university campuses, and I don’t think that the fact they are being connected here is outrageous or strange at all. The FBI and local police cannot themselves begin to believe that they have been in a failure feedback loop because once they find the drowned body, without evidence of struggle, they just let it go. Hey- some of these guys are showing up 3 weeks or more after they’re taken – that’s long enough for a bruise, hickey, or other skin evidence to go away. If these guys are drugged with coke, crystal meth, xtasy, or otherwise, it dissolves and gets pee’d away in a matter of hours. Think about the perpetrators, if you think long enough about committing a perfect murder, you’d need water to wash away the evidence, you’d need time to have body damage evidence to go away, and you’d need opportunity to grab your prey. The police are not doing their work, and because of that, we are lead to think that this could be racially motivated, this could be another Gacy homo murderer, or it’s the work of a satanic cult. Why not a “gang” or organized group? Just because it’s extraordinary doesn’t mean it’s not possible – and if you exhause all other possibilities, then this should be the path to follow for investigation, no matter how “out there” it is.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:28 pm
To reply to the walking man named Randall Flagg, etc.: I believe this is a reference to a Stephen King character in the novel, The Stand, or perhaps, the Dead Zone, I can’ t remember.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I agree with macword. It’s also unfortunate that most people have been hypnotized and conditioned to think the world is so mundane or not to think at all, whether creatively or constructively other than knowing how to balance a checkbook. People need to remember what it’s like to think for themselves and have a unique idea and not be afraid of how Suzie’s going to perceive of you. I’m also ashamed that our FBI and other so called government agencies are so corrupt, that they don’t let the good people to the good work, but instead silencing them in the many ways that come so natural to them
May 24th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
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May 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
I just read about this theory today and it blew my mind. I immediately thought of the hundreds of young women murdered in Juarez Mexico in the last fifteen years or so, but also of a bunch of drunk UVM college kid drowning deaths that I remember occurring in Burlington VT in the past three or four years. I recall it being shrugged off as a natural combination of booze and riverside bars, but now I’m kind of wondering. At least one of those supposed Smiley Face murders was in upstate New York, not too far from UVM.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:20 am
I am a “smiley evil looking” white ex-college student from Lincoln, Nebraska that was randomly attacked at party by a gang of African-American supposed Bloods, because of the red they were wearing… (and… obviously weren’t Huskers…) Had I not dodged a beer bottle that was thrown at me, I would most likely be DEAD. Yes, DEAD. Luckily, I escaped only losing vision in one eye because of the table leg that was swung into my face as I beheld the UNPROVOKED racist chaos. I’m told these wandering gangs of racists still exist around there…
I blame meth, greed, and gang culture… and of course the unequal distribution of wealth… but, my contribution is this: Manson was not racially motivated, women basically don’t murder, Gacy-like gay satinists is plausible–but unlikely: probably more likely to be one ashamed killer than a slew, but do not count out minority gangs and their allegiances. I have never seen a complete lack of regard for human life like I did that night. It is easier to kill a white male because of resentment… after all, white males have ruled the United States… and look what has come of that. I watched the Detroit vs Boston basketball game tonight, and the only African-Americans were on the court, not in the stands…and you should know by now that most of Detroit is African-American… and are Piston fans. Since when is a happy face particularly Satanist, as well… and when was the last time you heard of or saw Satanist grafitti?? I’m sorry if anyone was offended because of this, these blogs should be dedicated to similar cases, POSSIBILITIES, descriptions of out of place constituents in bars, and any other strange reports of crime in nights around these murders, not about white people pointing their fingers and race matters. White males are more likely to be serial killers, and minorities are more likely to kill in groups. I am not a Racist, just inclined to state the obvious… through my one eye.
May 27th, 2008 at 5:26 am
>>Albie, are you serious? One of the guys was a New Yorker. If you think ANYONE goes swimming in the two rivers that service this city, you are insane.
Drunk college kids, especially male, do all manner of crazy things.
I got drunk once and somehow left my home and spent the night in the park around the corner. I don’t know what happened in those hours. I lost my keys and must have laid down at some point. If I had fallen in the pond the shock of the cold water could have sent me into shock. Being drunk I might not have even woken up.
These deaths are just statistical. You have a wide area like America and that means millions of people. With the increase in teens drinking these days, this supposed series of deaths does not surprise me.
You could just as easily present cases of people who die of a drug over dose and have the word “mum” tattoed on their body. Oh no it’s the MUM KILLINGS!
This is nothing more than dumb cops, scaremongering media and sick wishful watchers hoping these deaths are like something out of a horror film.
Admit it, it would DISAPPOINT you if these deaths were explained away as accidents. You WANT them to have been perpetrated by a sick gang of killers.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Consider this from Australia about the link with alcohol and drowning.
“Objective: Alcohol contributes to about 30% of drowning fatalities associated with recreational aquatic activity and to 35% of drownings associated with boating. We consider regulatory and legislative strategies for preventing such deaths.”
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-842X.2006.tb00841.x
May 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
Obituary confirms Dubuquer’s death
The Telegraph Herald received an obituary on Monday for a Dubuque man who was reported missing.
Richard Argall, 30, of Dubuque, formerly of Belmont, Wis., died Saturday, according to the obituary.
Dubuque police on Monday refused to confirm that Argall was dead, and referred questions to the Criminal Investigation Division today.
Argall was last seen at his residence, 1455 Main St., on Thursday, May 15. His car was discovered in the Horseshoe Bluff parking lot at Mines of Spain Recreation Area, and records indicate it had been there since May 15. Argall’s family reported him missing on Wednesday, May 21, and a search was started.
A body of a white male was recovered in the Mississippi River near Bellevue on Saturday, but the Jackson County Sheriff’s Department said no information on the identity of the victim would be released until today.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Nicholas Garza’s body has been found. It looks as if he may be another victim of this gang. He was found in water.
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080528/NEWS01/80527041
Some of you were talking about drowning and alcohol. Some of the bodies that were recovered from the water did not seem to have died from drowning. I read that they had little water in their lungs.
June 1st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
why if there is no proof is the FBI still involved in the case. I mean if there is no proof then why still be investicating this proticular case. Right? there is something the FBI is not telling us about all of these murders and if that what aren’t they telling us
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm
“albie Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Consider this from Australia about the link with alcohol and drowning.
“Objective: Alcohol contributes to about 30% of drowning fatalities associated with recreational aquatic activity and to 35% of drownings associated with boating. We consider regulatory and legislative strategies for preventing such deaths.””
Yes, there’s no doubt that drinking heavily while partaking in aquatic activities can lead to death. However, most aquatic activities take place during summer months, not when it’s 35F outside. Swimming in ice cold water, drunk or otherwise, just isn’t that much fun.
Also, I know of no one who partakes in any type of aquatic activities in the Hudson Sewerrr.. River.. that involve water-to-skin contact. And I know even fewer people (not sure if you can know fewer people than “no one”, but I digress) who would fathom taking a little dip in this sewer when it’s 33F water! I’ve been pretty flippin’ drunk, and jumping into a frozen sewer has never, not once, crossed my mind as being a “good idea”.
Also, as you’ve pointed out, you got drunk and wound up in some random place, blissfully unaware of what happened… why then are no women showing up in rivers? Why only men? Why only white men? Black, Hispanic and Asian men don’t drink? I live near a dam where the banks are loaded with drunk Asian men fishing.. yet, I have heard of no dead Asian men found floating in the river in my area.
I would say that it requires a special amount of ignorance not to at least keep an open mind to the possibility of there being a connection between these cases.
Also, someone above mentioned that Chris Jenkins was kicked out of the bar because he was intoxicated. I just read the entire police report and there is no mention of this. Ashley came in with Chris and Nate (Chris being Ashley’s boyfriend) and Nate was the one who was thrown out of the bar because he was plowed.
June 5th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
This is really scary. More than likely , it is a bunch of late 20 something “friends”, who have separated, but “meet” on the internet, and gloat, and “plan”. Like creepy high school rejects, who make a pact to take out all the more accepted jock, handsom, college types…to get “even” with percieved societys shunnings? sounds crazy? this is crazy.
June 5th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
also, i am finding it pretty difficult to find law enforcements link pages…everything is not very updated…wonder why. this is front page news stuff to me.
June 7th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I go to UC San Diego. I heard on the news about this a few weeks ago. What was creepy was yesterday I was having lunch on campus and I noticed a smiley face graffiti on the side of a concreate building, which looked very similar to the ones I saw on the news- about the same size, kinda sloppy, light and done in white spray paint. Usually the grounds people are good about removing graffiti quickly, so I don’t think its been there too long. I was thinking about taking a picture of it in case it might be the real deal, but I think I’m just being paranoid and it’s probably nothing.
June 7th, 2008 at 2:30 am
If the smiley face killer(s) had a theme song I think it would be “Drowning Men” by the Adverts. Lyrics include: “we’re the subterranian vandals” “Who lie in wait” “Walk the streets, unnatural, graceless. Wipe the smile from your faces. If we can make it.” “Adventures don’t venture here.” “The drowning men are drawing near.” The song was made in the 70s though I think.
June 13th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I’m wondering if it’s possible for us who are interested in this to pool everything we can find on it and then step back and see the whole picture. (of course weed out through fact and opinion) If there is no funding… I don’t care about the money.
It’s just theory that these “killers” are linked and spread out across the states but…just supposing that it’s true…why not form a group that wants to help solve it who are also spread out across the states?
That’d be hard I understand–Or someone at least needs to organize a way for money to be raised to help further investigation.
June 21st, 2008 at 11:08 pm
NOW SEE HERE
FOUR PI
http://www.4p2.org/
I get the “Neo Process Church of Final Judgment”
I get the “4p2″ “4pi squared”
I get the German shepherd fixation
I get the four pi symbol
I get the “As it is” and “So be it”
I get the “now taking requests for entry”
I get the “Manson2″ reference
I get the David Berkowitz symbol
I don’t get the writing on the image
SO WHAT IS THE SMILEY DOING THERE??
(it is the famous red smiley, not the dot-nose smiley’s)
Is this a sick joke or is this somebody recruiting for the four pi?
Whats the deal here? Anybody…
June 22nd, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Very unsettling…
that would be a really sick joke…
thanks for pointing that out
(friend of Josh Szostak–body found this April)
June 23rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I first read about this in a magazine. My first thought was that this man sounds a lot like the 55 year old white man from MN who stalked me and other women and the police would do nothing about it. This man had a son who didn’t want anything to do with him and I think this man has hatred for white men who are educated like his son and is murdering them because this what he wants to do to his own child. I’ve read alot of information and it’s so disturbing. I think there are many evil faces to this man and I believe he has more that one type of victim. I believe he stalks mothers and murders young men due to his rejection from his wife and son and this is the only way he can survive the abandonment of his family. He is able to go about his life and the people around him have no idea about all of his hidden dark secrets. He is able to manipulate people and easily gain their trust so he can easily stalk or abduct them. I think the smiley face is him mocking everyong to let them know how much smarter he is than everyone else. I also think that he will continue to change things up and has always attempted to be in his victims families lives so he can stay in the know because he is that mentally deranged and needs to feel like he belongs somewhere.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:06 am
One of the boys dissappeared last April at Iowa STate he was my daughters best friend and yes I think I know why he was killed. And yes the smily face found right away would have scared us even more as we thought this was message anyway. It is trade mark of one group known as the dixie mafia to drown people as they need to end treats or shut people up. We shut up as it would explain the visitors I had the two days before he dissappeared and then the two emails I got while he was still missing showing people close to a Missouri RICCO case died by drowning at home. I think there are some simularities you all are missing that I can attest to as they effected are family severly. The mess includes some of the tainted politicians you already have read about in the press. And they are closley knit to the group I mentioned above. Some others say are full fledged members.
I guess the public needs to know about operation falcon and Homeland security program called info gaurd which have allowed for unconstitutional use of surveliance and some ask for what reason. I can tell you the reason if you were up to the same criminal activity you would want to know what others knew too. Bad thing is what can happen to you if you speak out or stumble on to this knowledge.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I was walking home one night and I happen to come across a nice slow moving body of water. I immediately noticed no one was around. But to my dismay a young boy (age ranging from 18-24) was stubbling drunk in my direction. I immediatly got a large erection and decided it would be so hot to drown him. I traveled 11 states with my buddies to kill these hard working students. My trade mark was a smeared poop stain on a rock or wall near where the body was found.
Yur all retarded…
June 27th, 2008 at 1:00 am
the truth of the matter is if you keep talking about it and sick people that like looking up things like this find out about it they are going to copy cat it because they get excited about knowing they created a scare tactic.
June 29th, 2008 at 5:17 am
I would start looking at a couple way too common posters who seem to be a bit excentric. This to me makes the most sence. I think it is ironic, that my thoughts would yield these further comments that did not exsist before I threw my comments into cyber space and really do not follow the conversation. The answers have been there all along. Contact the Maplewood, MN Police and ask them about claims of a serial stalkier who lives in their community. I am so irritated that the police did nothing to help me, but hopefullly the police will help other people who have beeen victims of crime instead of having to deal with what I have gone through on my own. The last few comments remind me of the psycho who stalked me and the mundane threats he would throw out there in passing conversation or through post cards or letters. Honestly I think that the murder of Joshua Guimond was the killers’ doing and I think that he is proud of what he did and is in constant contact with that family regardless of weather they know it or not. I don’t believe that anyone would be that hurtful and cruel unless they were the one who killed their child. I know I am puting myself out there and I know that I am doing the right thing. Someone needs to get this man and make him pay for what he has done. He stalks women with children in his off time from killing young college boys and loves that he gets away with this. I don’t want any more young boys killed. I have a son of my own.
July 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
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July 9th, 2008 at 4:20 am
It seems wierd to me that several people were leaving a buckhead saloon before they wet missing.
I agree with some of te comments that there may not be any proof and that it could just be wierd coincidences. However, I am also wondering what kindof informationis being kept secret. Usually (or maye I watch too many cop shows) investigators will keep something secret about the ‘methods’ of the ’serial killers’ in an effort to be able to weed the copy cats and the coincidences from the real thing.
Example: Say… all the missing men with smiley faces nearby also had marks on their wrists, but they don’t make this info public. That way, they know that anyone found without those marks are fakes.
Just speculation.
July 29th, 2008 at 2:01 am
so how many drunk college-age women and blacks and hispanics have drowned during this time period and college campuses?
any reliable reports?
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
If people were to fast and pray that the killers be found and stopped it couldn’t hurt as well as draw those who pray closer to the Lord. This sounds like it could be the same cult behind the Son of Sam murders decades ago.
August 25th, 2008 at 2:44 am
Wake up people!!! Want to know why the FBI won’t investigate? Learn the facts regarding The Franklin Cover-up and watch the documentary “conspiracy of silence” on youtube.
The documentary was scheduled to air on Discovery channel in May of ‘94, 20 minutes before airtime it was secretly purchased and ordered to be destroyed. This is the only remaining copy someone pieced together on the editing floor.
Then go learn about the johnny gosch case. Then it will all fit.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:37 am
I think ‘viewer’ is onto something. Here in Vancouver there has been a weird rash of young white men gone missing and from what I’ve read from this list of comments, it’s happening all over the place. Ten years ago none of this was happening but there were various serial killers killing women and on canadian usenet newsgroups there was this freak who I believe was part of a group called Fathers for Justice which were basically divorced dads with a major chip on their shoulders about being denied access to their kids for being unstable mental cases. Anyway they started forming support groups over the internet and they shut down a few bridges during rush hour locally wearing batman costumes, but anyway I’ll get to my point.. This one guy who used to rant and rave on usenet always used to go on about how police never investigate missing men they only care about women and society only cares about women, etc, etc. very mysoginst creep, but the thing is there were no missing men back then, it was all missing women, and people would tell him that and tell him he was a freak. So I could really see this guy and his crazed friends start killing young (white) guys with their bizarre rationale being that will make society start caring about white guys because they think white men are just the most victimized people on the planet (clearly they suffer narcissistic tendencies). So if I were investigating this case I’d look into these extreme fringe divorced dad groups, most of the members also tend to be in fringe political groups, hate the government and especially the court/legal system, and express extreme-conservative christian views..
November 25th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Interesting article on the Vancouver B.C. area missing men. They mention the smiley face killers on page 3 or 4. Also very strange about all the feet they’re finding around and in the Fraser River.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:31 am
http://www.canada.com/vancouvercourier/news/story.html?id=26d28beb-88d2-43c2-8ccd-3e742db307f6&p=1
December 7th, 2008 at 8:40 am
This is horribly creepy!
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December 9th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I was listening to Coast to Coast last week when I heard about this. Up until that point I had heard nothing about this. I find it shocking the mainstream media isn’t saying alot about this.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
It’s funny that I stumbled upon this story. There was a young man (20s) who was missing after going to a bar ( I believe). He was found a few weeks late in the Kansas River. This has all been fairly recent (within 3 months). He was missing from Topeka, KS.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
i have been interested in this mystery since hearing about it on C2C.
this has been going on ALOT longer than the last ten or fifteen years.
these killings resemble college killings as long ago as the 80’s, and possibly the 60’s.
don’t laugh.
some here are close to the truth.
look into the LEIU…and other “homeland security” informant networks.
back then, they would usually strike on halloween nights..
and having connections to local police departments, were always good in getting bogus autopsies and crime scene misinformation, or covering evidence.
i know of at least two murders at the Indiana University of Pennsylvania and possibly more, that fit this initiation style murder mystery, and possibly the perps names.
all of them, ( the victims) share the same head injuries, and all the cases there were dismissed offhand by the local law enforcement, and the crimes senes and evidence contaminated.
i know of two cases that were carried out by LEIU initiations. ( Law Enforcement Intelligence Unit)
the most famous case, that of Jack Davis Jr. on halloween night, 1987, was investigated, by Cyrell Wecht (sp?) and he was able to proove Davis was attacked, and killed, rather than “fell down”.
as i said, one of the keys is the date on which these killings happen.
the “smiley face” sign was visible at that crime sene, but was washed off the walls, before they could be properly recorded..
another sign seen at these crimes, is the “zodiac” sign..
a cross within a circle.
all of the victims are usualy male. and young..
most of them are ASKED to go to a function. an initiation.
into a special club, or group.
however, some are chosen at ramdom. the perps almost always volunteer to help in the search, and investigation.
and as i said, can and will destroy any proper investigation.
the fact that this is happenning more now, is because of the increased activity of various groups that have been added onto “homeland security”.
this is their cover.
remember, the LEIU.
February 13th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Ok no joke this wierds me out, I was at an afterhours party a few years back in Vancouver BC. Everyone was pretty out of it including me, I really don’t remember how I got to talking to this strange guy but something about him and his friends really creeped me out. What was really strange about it was he invited me to an after after party, it was already like 5 in the morning, the invite was in the form of a buisiness card, its was really cheap looking but it had this really creepy smiley face on it, maybe you think I’m reaching, but it was wierd and these guys were up to something, sounds like maybe given the times and ways these guys are going missing it could have something to do with afterhours parties, its a pretty ripe area to prey on people. I didn’t go to the address on the card and the other people I showed it to were right wierded out, so much so I threw the thing out. Anyway thats my .02
March 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Did anyone notice in going through this info that two of the ‘missing’ or ‘dead’ victims were both last seen leaving a Buckhead Saloon? Kyle Fleischmann (Charlotte) and Max Walker (Milwaukee) were both last seen by security cameras in these establishments. Kyle remains unfound.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 am
I am chaos, I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
Join me in Las Vegas, October 12, 2009. Parasol Up, Wynn. I’ll be wearing Levis, with a smiley face button on the left pocket flap of my jacket.
Google “Alan Cabal” for clews.
March 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 am
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 am
I just saw a story about these “Smiley Face” cases. How can the similarities be ignored? Graffitti, missing religious jewelry, and events that lead up to the deaths……too much to ignore. As a long time police officer and investigator, I think there is enough evidence to move forward with a concerted investigation. Agencies should be moving forward and comparing notes. This case doesn’t feel right. Unless more is done by police, there may be more and more deaths wrongly determined as accidental deaths. Why wait until the body count reaches a total that will prove imcompetence of all the investigators involved?
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
The Deaths are a game and its time to play?
March 24th, 2009 at 10:59 am
This is so SAD
March 24th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Listen, I also believe this is a series of murders. There is about a 23.6% I think you should firstly look into at least 20 of the possiable victoms. Maybe there are more connections then meets the eye. It’s a possiablity that maybe, this is one person doing this, but thats a 5.2% chance. Try to keep an open mind, check the paint used. There’s a 79.8% whos ever doing this is just trying to make a statement. Just remember to keep an open mind.
March 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
About a year ago a friend of my sisters went missing and then about a week later his was found in a river in NJ. The police first said that he had killed himself then they said he fell out of a tree broke his neck and drowned. No one back home in NY think this happen. Family and friends think he was killed. Me and my Mom say the story on GMA and we both said “could that have happen your sisters friend?” So now I’m looking in to these killings.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
It is strange that the smiley face murderers are here laughing at us to our faces and the police still refused to link the homicides together.
There needs to be better web protection and identity fraud prosecution on here.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
How can you predict things like this?
If you couldn’t predict this would happen in the first place then how are we able to stop it from happening again? There has to be an answer. There is no choices in allowing this by the authority of the blind any more.
This is an outrage. There has to be solutions.
All we can do for the victims is pray on Sundays for their souls be saved and redeemed and find everyone involved in every murder that took place.
March 26th, 2009 at 7:20 am
is there some kind of connection?? a line of bars ar colleges?? anything that they could have missed that is similar…..??? This is my first time hearing about all this. I take a Criminal Justice class… Im gonna look into this for sure…. READ IN BETWEEN THE LINES!!
March 26th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I strongly believe that there is a group a killers out there. some of these men were dead before their bodies entered the water. We love and miss you LGH
March 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
When reading all of these posts I remembered a drowning that happened in Jackson Wy in 2007. We don’t have a college here, but there is a large population of 20 somethings here. All of the details sounded similar, left the bar alone, including finding his wallet and cell phone two miles up, as if he planned on going in the water, yet the water is very cold here in May.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
This is totally creeping me out. But about 5-8 years ago (I can’t recall exactly), a young university student in Winnipeg Canada (white and handsome young man) stepped out of a bar … drunk as a skunk. The river is about half a mile away from the bar and the river is right next to the university. Sure enough, he was found dead a few days later in the river. Now tell me … how does a young man who is walking to his home, which is in the opposite direction of the river, end up in it ? It brought a lot of attention to the issue of binge drinking and cheap shots in bars. But after reading these comments, it’s rather eery that he ended up in that river. In fact, at the time, it didn’t make sense to most people.
Winnipeg is just north of Grand Forks and Fargo; not too far from Wisconsin, as well.
March 27th, 2009 at 12:06 am
After these series of deaths, the lack of media attention is quite angering. Speaking as a woman, I believe that if these young men were female the public response would be very different. As all investigations should be taken equally seriously, it is more common for cases of missing woman to be presented on a national level. While the disappearance of women may be more common statistically, it should not allow us to rule out the possibility that males can become victims also.
This case also brings to light the importance of a national database. With all the technology available, it is frightening to think that often times information can not be shared between jurisdictions.
March 27th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Seems to me it’s someone who travels. And a passport.
I would think it would be more Bon Jovie.. have a nice day. if all the smiles are in a square.
I do think there is a link between BC canada and the states with this.
Might even help to check a male airline attendants.
West jet
Air canada
Delta
so link that he can cover alot of ground or air. To get to so many places.. each state and in BC is international airports
just my theroy
March 27th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Last night Larry King devoted one half of his show to this
bizarre and tragic case. Both detectives were on and they appeared sincere and so very tired. Also a professor of criminology at St. Cloud university, along with a retired FBI profiler. I had also seen this case presented on cnn on the anderson cooper 360 show. I cannot begin to understand why the cable news channels does not present this case on a national level, like they did with Scott Peterson, or the Caleigh Anthony case, which is on several times a day, every day and night.
I had a hard time picturing a “gang of serial killers” until I thought about it this way. I am assuming that these people originally hooked up via the internet. To make it easier to picture, think about it like they were a gang of terrorists. they communicate frequently , tell each other their beliefs and hatreds,they are scattered all over the country and maybe Canada. They come up with their evil plan for getting rid of the young, kind of well to do young male. They must be well organized. I think that sometimes they meet up in person to draw up their creed or ideaology and to plan to the tiniest degree, their plan regarding locations, times, methods, etc. I think their issues are religion, economic factors, maybe political and even cultural. For instance their tjypical victim would be an18-24 or so male, maybe Christian or Jewish, who was
doing ok financially, maybe through his family support and most of all had a bright future. this gang, then would be
poorly off as far as money, maybe a hate Christian gang,anti-government and anti-american somehow. I could be so wrong, I realize. I just felt the need to write this. I think the smiley faces, themselves, are their calling card, which symbolically represents how happy and fulfilled they were to have commited these murders. I agree that women would be the lure along with date-rape drugs Given all of the facts we know, how could the fbi possibly not see the connection between these murders?
If these deaths were accidental or suicides, their would be a lot of young college women turning up having accidentally drowned or killed themselves. I pray for the victims families as I know all of us do. The fact that these crimes have been going on for 12 years or so amazes me
forensic psychiatrist, Cyrel Wecht, was on last night and he absolutely proved that some of these men were already dead when they were placed in the river. I wish their was something we could do to get the case a full blown fbi investigation, and the national attentin it deserves..I know this was kind of long, thanks for reading it.
JoannieShaw, March 27, 2009
March 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Last night Larry King devoted one half of his show to this
bizarre and tragic case. Both detectives were on and they appeared sincere and so very tired. Also a professor of criminology at St. Cloud university, along with a retired FBI profiler. I had also seen this case presented on cnn on the anderson cooper 360 show. I cannot begin to understand why the cable news channels does not present this case on a national level, like they did with Scott Peterson, or the Caleigh Anthony case, which is on several times a day, every day and night.no duplicate
I had a hard time picturing a “gang of serial killers” until I thought about it this way. I am assuming that these people originally hooked up via the internet. To make it easier to picture, think about it like they were a gang of terrorists. they communicate frequently , tell each other their beliefs and hatreds,they are scattered all over the country and maybe Canada. They come up with their evil plan for getting rid of the young, kind of well to do young male. They must be well organized. I think that sometimes they meet up in person to draw up their creed or ideaology and to plan to the tiniest degree, their plan regarding locations, times, methods, etc. I think their issues are religion, economic factors, maybe political and even cultural. For instance their tjypical victim would be an18-24 or so male, maybe Christian or Jewish, who was
doing ok financially, maybe through his family support and most of all had a bright future. this gang, then would be
poorly off as far as money, maybe a hate Christian gang,anti-government and anti-american somehow. I could be so wrong, I realize. I just felt the need to write this. I think the smiley faces, themselves, are their calling card, which symbolically represents how happy and fulfilled they were to have commited these murders. I agree that women would be the lure along with date-rape drugs Given all of the facts we know, how could the fbi possibly not see the connection between these murders?
If these deaths were accidental or suicides, their would be a lot of young college women turning up having accidentally drowned or killed themselves. I pray for the victims families as I know all of us do. The fact that these crimes have been going on for 12 years or so amazes me
forensic psychiatrist, Cyrel Wecht, was on last night and he absolutely proved that some of these men were already dead when they were placed in the river. I wish their was something we could do to get the case a full blown fbi investigation, and the national attentin it deserves..I know this was kind of long, thanks for reading it.
JoannieShaw, March 27, 2009
March 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
This is within the timeline of the murders that continue in Atlanta…color and age are the only changes. Remember Wayne Williams was only convicted of TWO of the 19 that had disappeared and found killed at the time of his arrest. There is a link here and its not paranoia. Police officals are not listening to the hoof beats here…there could very well be a connection to the Stephen King character often paranoid delisional persons will take on the persona of the voices they here…and yes David Berkowitz did and still says there is an underground Satantic like cult that is bent on continuing the so called “work” of Charles Manson.
March 27th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
sorry it should read “hear” not “here” very bad joint issues folks…so very sorry about that. I would love to volunteer my time to the law enforcement officials if they would have me. Sometimes another set of eyes can really help…
March 27th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Great post Joannie and you are on the right trail…
March 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Okay everyone breathe. Every law enforcement agency in the nation with the exception of NCIS and the CIA have specific and exacting protocols to follow before inviting the FBI in. Law enforcement pecking order is strictly adhered to unless the specific case is presented in such a way to over rule said pecking order. Also law enforcement has been burned too often by letting out all the facts or theories in a case. So it stands to reason some things are being withheld from John Q Public.
That being said, posters to any site concerning these events should remain open minded, respectful and ready to do research. In all of the presentations (and I will agree not all the writing is journalistic in presentation) are based on Theory only…a cops gut instincts an FBI profilers knowledge of the past serial killers that have been studied for YEARS.
Charles Manson was indeed race driven…although his drug abuse often squewed it…his followers are not all known nor were all apprehended or “given up”. What is being lost in translation are the patterns. ALL human beings are slaves to patterns. Routines too. The women killed in MN, the women killed in Mexico, the young men in Atlanta and now these young men all are a pattern.
As for the smiley faces: markings are common to any and all killing fields some are just more obvious then others.
March 27th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Hoax. 40 kills a hoax does not make.
Age differences in the various cases can be chalked up to the persception (sp?) of the killer or killers. Someone in their 30’s or 40’s may be built like someone in their 20’s.
What also should be examined is the time of incident hour day of the week time of the year, weather and time frame of discovery.
Breaks in the killing pattern are indictive of either the killer being in prison or the person/ group moving en mass to another killing field. The killer or killers being satisfied until the urges move to kill again. Just like Mexico there are points along the Canadian US border where one can slip in and out undetected.
Investigating multilpe crimes over a vast area is costly. If there are no funds from a private donor or organization and the families are not financially able to help the persons investigating often use their own money. The fact that the leads bringing this to the publics knowledge are retired police officers should not bear on the case as a whole.
As for the details of the deaths: autopsy or crime scene photos are the only way to know if other markings were left behind by the killer or killers.
As for the young man that might be concluded to be a survivor; many rapes and murders are interupted by people passing too close to the rape/kill site or abrupt acts by the victim scare the perp.
There is something else that should be considered in reference to the smiley face…it could be the smiley face was there BEFORE the kills and is being used as a ruse to throw off investigators. It woudn’t be the first time…Boston Strangler…BTK.
March 27th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Actually, I researched it more carefully … the young man in Winnipeg Canada was Kris Howard; 20 years old. Disappeared Sept 30 2000 and was found floating in the river on October 19 2000. Hmmm …. this is consistent with other stories above.
When they were searching for him, the search was nowhere near the river, because his home was in the opposite direction, so they thought they would find him dead in an open field on the way to his home, i.e. maybe he froze to death (it was a very chilly Sept night). It was a shock to everyone that he was found floating in the river 19 days later, which was 1/2 mile away from the bar (the university he attended is close by as well) in the opposite direction.
If there were smiley faces anywhere … the police wouldn’t release that type of info to the public.
March 28th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
wowthats stupid
March 29th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Why are you’ll take things very lightly here in America. They haven’t found out who the smiley face killer was. Now that is a shame if haven’t found the secret killer. News got people thinking that it is a gang, it is not a gang. News reporter needs to use proper terms. When American people hear the term gang they think hispanics and black street gang. First of all I don’t think gang member in the street are that smart. Lets see Smiley face what does the smiley face symbolize, happy killer. Wow, that can’t be it. Instead of thinking it is a gang.
The Smiley face killer are smart, know how to beat the system and know how to catch the government attention by using that Satanic Symbol. I know from research it is deeper than just a gang. It is a society of people who has a plan and doing it to catch people attention.
American people fail to do research Not me and I’m not afraid to say so neither. For the ones who out their doing crazy things like killig innocent people no mercy will be brought upon you when the Most High send the Messiah back with rapture. And for all the people you have possesived when go intothe lake of fire right alone with you. I pay close attention to signs and gesture and hand motions and terms. So be careful on who you trying to fool.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
This is for randall FAGG and all your strawmen. A bards barbs. INCHOATE
March 30th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
This is for randall fagg and your strawmen. A bards barbs INCHOATE
March 30th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
There’s rumors going around that Kristi Piehl, and the Detectives on the case, have stated that they believe it is a Satanic Cult.
Supposedly, Kristi Piehl just recently stated that the Satanic Cult is a possibility.
If anyone has actually heard her say that or not the program she said it on, please let me know via posting here.
The reason is that if this is what they truly believe then I will know that it’s all a joke and is just alcohol-related accidental deaths. There’s no such thing as a Satanic conspiracy. The FBI released a report in 1992 on so-called Satanic Ritual Abuse and concluded there was nothing to it.
If anybody has heard anything, again please let me know.
Thanks…
March 31st, 2009 at 12:07 am
Seething with madness and delirium – apostasy driven dark edifices stand destitute a testament to the unforgiven. Mans maelstrom covered in a malevolent shroud. Pervasive, pious, preordained, and proud. Drenched in the blood of humanity. Cloaked in the bonds of Christianity. Dominionisms baptismal a wretched earths calamity In its wake a mammon will rise. MANS MALFEASANCE MAGNIFIED! So Mr. FAGG IF THE MOON IS FULL AND THE STARS SHINE BRIGHT AND YOUR WALKING HOME ON THIS KIND OF NIGHT LISTEN CLOSELY FOR YOU MAY HEAR THE MUFFLED FOOTSTEPS OF THE WOLFMAN DRAWING NEAR. HELTER SKELTER 123 HURRY UP SOON! YOU COULD BE MY DELICACY! SEE YOUSOON LOCK YOUR DOORS YOU TWO BIT HACK
March 31st, 2009 at 2:03 am
i cant beleive people would fake that there this gang on here. Thats just asking for some karma. this is very serious and i live in the minnesota, north dakota range. I have heard of this and i really think people should start looking through the internet to try to find some weird underground website of this “smiley face gang” they deifnlty have a site somewhere. These are planned killings. I do beleive that some of them are defintly an accident but i beleive most of them are murders. I also beleive that the smiley faces are a weird sick way of them showing that they love what they do, and that they wont stop. I also feel like there is smiley faces that are yet to be found, being dumped in a you definetly are going to move down stream, the smiley faces could be anywhere up the river from where they were killed from….think about it
March 31st, 2009 at 7:38 am
CNN Anderson Cooper on Smiley Face Killers, March 2009
Anderson Cooper Report on Smiley Face Killers Part 1
This is Part 1 of a three-part video.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:40 am
Part 2 of Anderson Cooper’s Show About The Smiley Face Killers:
Anderson Cooper Report on Smiley Face Killers Part 2
March 31st, 2009 at 7:42 am
Part 3 Of Anderson Cooper on Smiley Face Killers:
Anderson Cooper Report on Smiley Face Killers Part 3
March 31st, 2009 at 9:16 am
……looking searching for his prey as a wolf would look for a sheep astray but when a strawman he does find he believes not in wasting much time . he creeps upon this god forsaken man and crushes his skull with the blow of his hand and from this mangled man comes the muffled groans of the doomed and damned! I must have been one of the first….a dry run perhaps or just a mistake. Either way you started throwing them in the water and not the fields you left me in. Seriously, did you expect me to be walking home at 5 in the morning? I remember the van that picked me up.. all the interior was ripped out the questions that he asked me. no one in the right mind would pick up someone covered in manure and filth at that time or any time. see you soon Mr FAGG
March 31st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Mr. Reaper the game is Halo the clan is the smiley face the score is slayer. this is how the strawmen (you) communicate. hint hint I remember the beat down like it was……. swift and easy.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:12 am
Snyder is a hack too Mr. Fagg you want something with a little beef. ……Swift and easy I CALL THIS ONE BLACK PEARLS The labyrinth…. therein it lies all that apathy implies,the peonage of the plebeians prize. The aroma of sorrow saturates the insatiable acquiring all thats capable. For Jesus has blessed thier domain. Carnal pleasures of suffering and pain. Severing the soul from what is kind. While the rich live strong, the penury supine. For in the labyrinth nothing is as it seems only endless servitude for bourgeois dreams! Seriously, you guys think mother earth needs your help in expunging our race ….. our get accolades from murdering innocents …….Pleaseeee. utopia is a idea not a destination. give it up you have went down the wrong road. YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER ABDUCTED ME YOU IDIOTS! FOR ITS LED TO YOUR DEMISE SEEYOU SOON MR FAGG.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 am
Imagine now, while the curtain’s falling, that it’s a fine balmy day and the smell of clams coming in from the bay. You step out along the Atlantic littoral in your cement suit and your gold-heeled socks and there’s the roar of Chop Suey in your ears. The Great White Way is blazing with spark plugs……………….You can have anything you want for the asking. That is, if it’s a fine balmy day and the smell of clams coming in from the bay. Because why? Because America is the grandest country God ever made and if you don’t like this country you can get the hell out and go back to where you came from. There isn’t a thing in the world America won’t do for you if you ask for it like a man. You can sit in an electric chair and while the juice is being turned on you can read about your own execution; you can look at a picture of yourself sitting in the electric chair while you are waiting to be executed. A continuous performance from morn till midnight. The fastest, cleanest show on earth. So fast, so clean, it makes you desperate and lonely. Henry Miller ( Black Spring) pgs 223,224 For the rest. Do you know how Buddhist communities dealt with capital punishment without dishonoring their sacred vow of not killing anything? At the foot hills of the Himalaya’s they would lead the accused up the mountain bound and gagged and leave them to freeze to death. The coastal areas was less arduous, bound and gagged they were thrown in the rivers.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Who the fuck are you? Are we to be sifting through your gibberish for the blatant statements? Quit buzzing in my ear, you’re annoying me…
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_missing_students.html
i highly suggest anyone who is interested in these drownings check out this site…
might i also add, why is it, if these are supposed accidents, as police have said, why haven’t any women been reported missing or drowned???? isn’t it just natural that if men are drinking and falling in a cold river, that some women out there are happen to meet the same fate??????
and why haven’t the police considered ether, GHB, anything like that?? There was one case of a champion wrestler having a post-mortem b.a.c. of .40! how does one even make it to the water at that level?? what if the alcohol is forcibly administered??? in any regard, Luke Homan attended my highschool, and i remember the announcement of his disappearance and then the discovery of his body… he was a very popular, athletic and highly achieving student… how long will this go on before the police start stringing them together and doing something about it??
also, in all the 40+ cases in the midwest area, why has there NEVER, EVER been any witness to these drunk men wandering near the water’s edge?? just by chance a drunk friend is never there to see them fall in, to see them near the water, nothing. EVER. how can there never have been a witness??
again, check out the site… it has loads of information in regard to patterns, manner of disappearance, findings… CHECK IT OUT!
also.. there was one male who lived! he left the bar one january night, coherent and in control, despite drinking, and the next thing he knew, he awoke in the mississippi and struggled for 15 min. before grabbing a cement wall, dragging himself out, and making it to a hospital. he has no recollection as to how he ended up in the river, and i may be wrong, but i belive he was without a shirt, whatever that may mean…
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I think it might be a (COPY CAT ) murder cause if you think about it wouldt they do the same smiley face every time but im glad that there still trying to find the murders keep up the good work
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I live in the Minneapolis St. Paul area. I have followed the Christopher Jenkins case. If you look at what happened and how it happened very closely then you’ll start to see a patern here. The Chris Jenkins case in Minneapolis is what blew this whole thing up and got the investigation started into this so called “smiley face gang”. Believe me, the F.B.I is most likely looking into this. If the FBI came out and said that they were looking into it then they’d fail miserably with the investigation. That would be like the DEA putting an article in a local newspaper saying they’re watching a particular crack house.
I’ll just come out and say that I truly believe it’s not a satanic cult, it’s not a single serial killer, it’s not a bunch of women who are man haters, or some stupid internet club that gets together once in a while to discuss plans on who and how they’re going to murder someone. These are also not accidental drownings or suicides.
It’s right in front of your face people. It’s most likely law enforcement, police officers. Now what do you think of that? How do I know this? MOTIVE. That’s what people don’t understand here is that there has to be a motive. Think of all the serial killers we’ve heard of. Ted Bundy, John wayne Gacy, David Berkowitz, Richard Ramirez, Jeffrey Dahmer, Dennis Rader, Gary Ridgway, etc. With the exception of Ted Bundy, these serial killers had a certain stomping ground. It wasn’t scattered all across the country. Look up serial killers on the internet and you’ll see that the only ones that ever really roamed the country were Ted Bundy, Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole. But even their murders weren’t this widespread. Bundy escaped jail twice and commited murders in those states.
There seems to be a resemblance to a man named Richard Kuklinski, AKA “The Iceman”. He was always trying to find new ways to get away with murder. He would go as far as to leave a person on a park bench like they had a heart attack. But he had actually poisoned them with Cyanide.
But now to talk about the Christopher Jenkins case. He was at the Lonetree bar in Minneapolis on Halloween night. He was with his girlfriend. Or at least he thought she was his girlfriend. He was dressed as an indian of some sort and his girlfriend was wearing a Minneapolis police officers uniform. That police officer was at the bar, off duty, and was flirting with Chris Jenkins girlfriend. Chris Jenkins was later kicked out of the bar, forcefully, for no good reason. It was said that he was upset at the police officers flirting with his girlfriend. So they kicked him out. He started walking home and disappeared. His body was found in the Spring, in the Mississippi river not far from Nicollet Island park.
His death was originally ruled an accidental drowning or a suicide. Give me a break. I grew up hanging out in downtown Minneapolis and know the area around the river very well. I couldn’t believe the Minneapolis police department even had the guts to say something so ridiculous. Cops are the most arrogant people and the biggest liars there’s out there. It’s a fact people. The police are not out there to “serve and protect” like they swore under oath to do. It’s “I want to wear that badge and that will make me above the rest, it may even make my penis bigger so I can grudge fuck my wife because I hate her and have a ton of inner rage building up inside me”. Am I wrong about this statement? Just look at the most recent case in Minneapolis where a cop shot a man 8 times and said he shot him because the fleeing suspect pointed a gun at him. It’s now being investigated and has been proven that the man the cop shot dead did not have a gun and that the cop planted the gun near his body as a cover up. Think about it! This steroid using, hot headed, mean tempered rule crazy cop shot a man in cold blood because of his own agression problems that he can’t control. Then he tried to cover it up. But now he’s being busted on it. It’s not widespread news because it has to do with law enforcement. A media company isn’t going to go wild on a story like that for fear of reprecussions. It’s pretty obvious people what’s REALLY going on here.
The Jenkins family were stubborn and good for them. Because their son’s death was later classified as a hommicide. The case was closed. But it was only reopened AFTER we got a new chief of police in Minneapolis. There was so much evidence that indicated Chris Jenkins was in fact murdered and not that he fell off a bridge or committed suicide. To me, his death was covered up by the police department that was in charge of the investigation. No doubt about it.
I have a lot of facts about these deaths that point to one thing and one thing only. Corrupt cops. I have personal experience with this as well. My email is boiler55126@yahoo.com. I’d love to hear from you.
April 4th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Isn’t it strange that we would be here talking about the case of the Smiley Face Murders while at the other end there are posters making fun of this situtation ?
Seems drastically odd.
It also seems drastically odd that college men with good grades and friends would ever even consider committing suicide let alone killing anybody again!
Tsk tsk tsk. I do not feel safe and still I am not scared to die. God decides upon my life’s choice and God decides upon my life’s death.
In truth the reality is a serious issue. Why are mass murderers still roaming around freely?
April 5th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Webmaster of this site: You may want to correct your information in the intro. The case in MN ruled a homocide, is Chris Jenkins, not Henkins.
April 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
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April 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Summer in Sheboygan Rose pedals ripe, smothering the night,Dancing in dew, dripping moonlight, the nubile bouquet of Summers delight! Amid her annual compromise,searing beauty etched in Autumns eyes,But woe unto you if you unearth her suprise!
April 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
hello i am from Minneapolis, MN. A freshman from my school (St. Thomas) has been missing since Sunday night 3am…he left a party drunk and walked towards the mpls river… they cannot find him since.
smily face hints:
- drunk white college male
- about 20 yeards from the river
- bloodhound found trail from party house right up to a street corner (taken into van)
what is more creepy is i read some of these comments and one said a TRANE technician in a van is common in these. There is a TRANE building not too far away at all.
http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_12099543
April 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
This is concerning#109 on this page Now see here Four PI . The neo process church of final judgement. I know why there is a smiley face on the montage of this web site. For a schilling the smiley’s get a coffin. Sorta like a foreign exchange between evil.
April 11th, 2009 at 11:32 am
There is an organisation based in Norway and Moldova which calls itself Another Smiley Face. It is linked to a group of Moonies based in Moldova under the name Service for Peace.
April 13th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/
good site
April 15th, 2009 at 7:51 am
For the record , Longfellow is not a hack. A bit verbose , but not a hack. I can’t believe you allowed Snyder to pervert the empathy that his work conveys. If Snyder had wisdom he would know that the cyclic nature of Mother Earth and allow for her natural rhythms take place. Instead of invoking the Great Spirit to help in murder. I to believe that it is a tragedy our nation needs the Ohio River to catch on fire before Congress passes the Clean Air and Water Act. We take baby steps when we should be running a marathon. Manifest Destiny, Pine Ridge,Wounded Knee all leave me crying on the couch as well. But take a look in the mirror, it is our ancestors who perpetuated this; they laid to waste the forest with the ax. I grew up in the Talledaga National forest wading creeks for crawfish,picking blackberries,fishing the Summer away. It hurts my heart that people who have moved with the Great Spirit like me can allow for this to go on. You are not ghost who need revenge. For it is hard to change a mind in dialogue,but that doesn’t mean its easier to kill them. Civilisations rise and fall. Should you go after the Cortez’s desendents next? My mother told me that they learned to recite the Song of Hiawatha as child in Cedar Grove. I read the others; Ghost, White Man’s Footprint ect. I see the the subtle connections. I will try to appeal to ones who know this course of action is wrong. Go now to the authorities for it is your soul that hangs in the delicate balance between the Here After, and a fate I can not fathom.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I also know the 4 day journey, Laughing Waters, Hiawatha’s footprint , the prowess discussed after the journey. Mark my words, The wildman John the Baptist, the one who ate locust and wild honey, brought about the apocalypse, not the end but the radical change. For Christdom has forgotten there roots of camel hair. This will change too. And soon the East branch of the Miwaukee will host baptisms And God willing it will host mine also. For my soul is in need of a cleansing!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
To the disciples of Mr. Strauss, We all see the mirrors that line your house, Facing outward to reflect the lie, of the sepulchral contents that dwell inside, But there is One who sees into your heart, He will leave you asunder, the seams will fall apart, Then you will truly believe, all will come to pass, all will be percieved.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Last chance for those who have taken an unwise stance, for the mighty Sipsey misses me , You are drawn to the light like a firefly in flight, I beg of you to give up the fight.Let your soul rest , do not rage against the dying of the night. It will only leave you broken an shattered beyond any hope of repair,For love will live with no despair.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
I am sending a much prayed-about apology to the young white college student who lost his eye and came close to losing his life and probably ending up in the closest river, all because of a pack of angry black men. I want you to know that those men and I may share the same race but we have no ethics or morals in common. To throw off the athorities Iwouldn’t put it pass an ntelligent vile sadistic brother to make sure the drown body was associated with a smiley face. There has to be some connection or there would be some black college boys turning up too. The one who said he didn’t want anyone pointing racist fingers- he and I both know that ther are some evil vile people in our race,,, as in every race.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
It’s karma. White people have killed millions of non whites such as Native Americans, Asian, Polynesians,Blacks and now they are being murdered for their crimes of genocide against these people.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Hey Doug and Taylor, I caught the message on Fight Club, I do read everything I guess. First, I have embraced humanity and I still love to meditate. Second, I only pick a fight when there something at stake… like right now! Third, Man to man I would wax the floor with either one of you but you would love that right. Sorry I didn’t come to the dark side but you know how it is. The movie is a real gem if you know what you are looking for :] Got to go but keep up the hate it suits you guys real well!
April 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
P.s. I still relieve myself when I need too You should try it sometime! It’s fun!
April 25th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Innocence Ends The midnight air caresses and by the spirits we hear the feverish pitch of mad dictation and a raving accomplice.”We shall cleanse the land of these blatant heretics!” So our departure was hastily made for the fate of many was decided today.Through dwindling starlight we make egress to impending acts we must confess!” Murder rides in with the pale moon the scent of death shall linger here soon!”"So by all means take flight!”Please!!….. please! you must believe! However, a mortal soul did not flee. For righteous indignation they could not pay heed. In the darken regions of the soul a bloodlust redeemer resides and does what he is told at the crossroads where life is bought and sold. And as a war party crests a hill the still of the night was broken by a bloodcurdling shrill! “Men,women and children each shall be shown,”" Kill them all!”" God will know his own!” As God averts his eyes the savage garden erupts with cries! Angels permeate lachrymal skies. The moon foreboding the Cathars demise. I’m at the mercy of those who keep the arcanum arcandrum. Please spare my life. My path has been Illuminated by the Morning Star and I’m a slave to the Lord. To illustrate, during my tenure at Bemis my fingers always lagged behind my brain with my clock number which for years I would pull up Charles Herr identity. The father of Nathan Herr, one of the victims of these murders. Even then God was directing me.
April 25th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Didn’t like my Fight Club message? :]
April 25th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
hurry LORD JESUS come quickly!!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Has anyone read the Smiley Face Killer book? Is it any good?
May 1st, 2009 at 4:23 am
According to the book the serial killer gang was based on a gang called the Dealers of Death, but there is also talk of a muslim terrorist connection.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I tell you… from this moment onward all are accountable for the stains on there robes. For those that have walked in righteousness must continue to do so. God has led many down different roads and now there are road blocks to navigate. Pray that the Lord guides your path because soom will require a different road and others will have to remain steadfast upon the road they tread. The oxen who toils and bears the weight for America; turn your backs to the horned altar. The time has come to banish them to the past. We enter a new and blessed age when those who were once wicked can be saved:but those who are saved can no longer be wicked. Heed this and the Lord will remove the heavy yoke upon your hearts. The lions who have protected and served faithfully… the Lord’s blessings have been bestowed on you and your names are written in heaven;henceforth you will be required to lay with the Lamb and promote the peace you so desperately deserve lest, you find your names whitewashed from the book of life. Nothing is indelible but our Lord. The eagles who attain great heights by your astute air and keen sight. I pray for you to keep you aloft in flight! At last the face that bears humanity. Sorrow has a refining quality fot the soulbut it’s influence must be tempered.Wisdom without discipline can rip the mind from the souland bring utter despair and helplessness.We all have been at the crossroads of life and we have all strayed Remember, the shepherd will rejoice upon your return. He lifts you up and negates your abominations and honors your salvation. Those who feel neglected by God…restore your faith in yourself and God’s purpose. Embrace the Lord’s divinity. He has always been with you. Do not be ashamed. I pray this is what I’m suppose to do. I hope I’ve reached those that can be reached and warned those of the rebellious house of the Lord’s wrath. For none of us are truly lost in the wilderness t6he Lord can find you anywhere at anytime. x+y=45′=White Kame=sacred geometry=Dominionism. For what is perpendicular will be parallel. Blessed are those who wash their robes that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.I Jesus has sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and offspring of David, the bright morning star. Revelations Chapter 22 verses 14-17 revised standard version/ Nelson/ Peace to all. jd
May 10th, 2009 at 12:42 am
terre haute reporting missing college guys body found in the wicked wabash…….
May 12th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
In 2001 I was doing my job, driving from Minneapolis MN to Madison WI. on my regular route for a trucking company. I had the flu and was sick as one can be but I had to do the run anyhow. I stopped in the rest stop south of Eau Claire WI on interstate 94 southbound to relieve myself and take some tylenol for the fever. Since I hate rest stops and I don’t trust anyone on the road I don’t know I carry a bayonet for protection. On walking into the mens room I was confronted by 3 men, I went to the stalls and did my thing, on coming out of the stall one man posted himself at the door and the other at the opposite end of the restroom behind me. I went to the wash basins, leaned over and exposed my bayonet to the fellow behind me, he signaled the other guy at the door who retreated into the lobby with the third man. I washed my face and hands turned and looked squarely at the man behind me who had moved a safe distance away from me and smiled. I walked passed the other two in the lobby and out into the night back to my truck. That was the last I saw of them. Seems if your halfway prepared to confront the jackals they back off. I’ll never knwo what their intentions were or who they were but they were working as a team and they had a plan. I foiled it by not being a victim.
May 13th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Ras Shamra….. The cedar tree planted and a declaration proclaimed an “everlasting kingdom” the menace of Baal maintained. The mission of the seventy Asherah and El conceived, A hoard of Semitic deities at war with those it deceives. Solomon’s sordid sanctuaries upon the corrupt mount, a temple built by demons all abominations by the Lord’s account. Asmodeus and Ashtart banished to a jar by a king who descends from the bright morning star. Unto those who mine arcane wisdom from pious decay,a portal of Baphomet to indoctrine from the fray. Baal Berith presiding over the ceremonial rite, the bonds of blood sealing up the divine birthright. A gnostic knot drawn tight. The sacred prostitutes Asherah and Astarte whose eyes are painted so, igniting sweltering scenes with stunning apropos. Sex drunk! Glee glistens from every pore! Seducing pubescent perceptions in a robust amour, Earth shattering…….down too its orgasmic core! A prince of Amity the one who wears the crescent crown will make hideous your breath and your sexuality unsound. Your blackouts…….a side effect of your soul being bound. You have become a fertile whore for all that you despise, led against your will you have been hypnotized. Letty, your truth can only be perceived through a child’s eyes…………The men of Tyre read Ezekiel 26,27,28, a portent for your fate. Wash your soiled robes and close your precious gates. You may fear God, but you have little understanding of the purpose you serve. For what lies at the heart of the confederacy is militant hypnosis and gnostic nerve! Hiding your duplicity in the sacred word. Will you not get what you so deserve?! And if you believe your Gods I tell you that is absurd! Just a dream don’t you wish when chaos succumbed to your savage kiss, to hell with Baal and peace to all ! Peace to all who exist!!! jd.
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 am
I,m interested in this case i wonder how many members is there in this gang. And if it’s really gang and not a cult and how many members there is in each state maybe i should start investigating this myself they strike in bars right maybe they would fall for a trap I could use my self as bait and catch a member and make them talk this could solve the case. i,ll do it
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 am
I my become a victim but it,s worth the risk
May 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Minnesota and Wisconsin victims that detectives believe may be related (INFORMATION FROM DET. KEVIN GANNON)
Wisconsin
1) Charles Blatz 28 yrs
Missing-9/28/97 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found-10/0397 — Mississippi River –BAC (0.20)
2) Anthony Skifton 19 yrs
Missing-10/10/97 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found– 10/20/97– Mississippi River –Bac (0.23)
3) Nathan Kapfer 20 yrs
Missing-2/22/98 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found—4/04/98 — Mississippi River -Bac (0.22) Third (3rd) child missing within five (5) months, (9/20/97 —2/22/98). Not just the same state but the same town of La Crosse.
4) Jeffrey Geesey 21 yrs.
Missing-4/11/99 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found—5/24/99 – Mississippi River – Bac (0.42)
5) Craig Burrows 23 yrs.
Missing-9/29/02 Eau Claire, Wisc.
Found–10/06/02 – Half Moon Lake
6) Michael Noll 22 yrs.
Missing-11/06/02 Eau Claire, Wisc.
Found—–8/19/03 – Half Moon Lake
7) Nathan Herr 21 yrs.
Missing-01/10/03 Sheboygan, Wisc.
Found—-3/15/03 – Lake Michigan
Third (3rd) child missing within less than three (3 1/2) months, (9/29/02–01/10/03)
Missing–4/10/04 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found—-4/15/04 — Mississippi River -Bac (0.40)
9) Joshua Snell 22 yrs. (in from Minnesota for a wedding)
Missing-6/12/05 Eau Claire, Wisc.
Found—6/15/05 – Chippewa River
10) Cullen Fortney 21 yrs.
Missing 1/08/06 Mississippi River La Crosse, Wisc.
Found—1/08/06 – ALIVE Bac (0.043-0.1643)
11) Kenji Ohnri 20 yrs.
Missing-01/28/06 Madison, Wisc.
Found—-6/19/06 – Lake Mendota
12) Lucas Homan 21 yrs
Missing-9/30/06 La Crosse, Wisc.
Found–10/02/06 – Mississippi River
Minnesota
1) Ken Christiansen 19 yrs.
Missing-4/13/01 Duluth, Minn.
Found—4/16/01 – Chester Creek
2) Christopher Nordby 27 yrs.
Missing-11/07/01 Minneapolis, Minn.
Found—–2/11/02 – Mississippi River
3) Christopher Jenkins 21 yrs.
Missing-10/31/02 Minneapolis, Minn.
Found—02/27/03 – Mississippi River
4) Joshua Guimond 20 yrs.
Missing-11/09/02 Collegeville, Minn.
Found—( ) Never Found
5) Jeremy Stienkeoway 24 yrs.
Missing-01/20/03 Hinckley, Minn.
Found—-4/10/03 – St. Croix River
6) Patrick Kycia 19 yrs.
Missing-9/23/05 Moorhead, Minn.
Found—9/28/05 – Red River
7) Scot Radel 21 yrs.
Missing-02/02/05 St. Cloud, Minn.
Found—–3/01/06
If you put these on a time line you can see the times that they start and stop. Maybe the interputions were do to jail time? prison time?
I find it hard to believe that a serial killer would stop killing for a period of time. Between 1999 and 2001? 2004 to 2005?
It is possible that whoever is doing this has been in prison already for assaults or rapes? got a violation of probation, or got caught doing something and went back to prison to serve more time.
I also think that this is possibly race, gender, or some how jealousy over the fact that they are popular, financially stable, or sex related. I am now glad that someone is looking into this. I live in MN and am not far from all of these towns. I hope the families and friends get the closure they deserve.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
A dream… a dreary, dreary dream apart from this world in manic echos dying in the morning mist. A dark Eygptian dream unraveling tentacles throughout the ” Desire of Ages”. A dangerous dream of mystic inspiration promoted by the Eckhart heresy. A rapture of the God Head to isolate and manipulate. Seperating accountability through divine repentance and the transcending One. A beautiful lie to empower the believer in thier own righteousness. A devious deception that leaves one serving Lucifer while they think they are serving the Lord……………… You still yourself for the awakening breaching the monotony of the unrealized, undefended, untried, and disrespected. Harboring hope as if a great tempest will swell and engulf the last remnant of aspiration humanity has left. Desperate and scared, hope becomes moored to self and isolation. What is needed is tranquility and a bedrock. The sea of society needs this bedrock of justice to calm the masses and allow hope to set sail. A rupture in the bedrock would release an epic tidal wave and disperse the sea across vast plains of anarchy and kill indiscriminately. Mercy and empathy solidify the bedrock and provide stability to the state. Without mercy and empathy to mend the fractured self there will be no prerequisite for peace. Peace does not need preparation or guidance; it is forged by the individual and the collective conception. Born instantaneously from reason and wisdom, a realization that freewill is but a template and not the purpose.You control your own reality and relationship with God. The onus rest upon each and every one of us. These steps build on the foundation of Christ and revel in the self evident truth of peace. Do not judge. Do not rationalize your own iniquities or circumvent the will of the Lord for your own gain. Do only what is right and prove your merit. Provoked…… will you annihilate or turn a swollen cheek? Love your enemy or loathe them? Act as God or act for God? Demand to be served or serve humble demands? Accept our fate or deny the past? Truth leaves no choice…………………… Trust not in the dark dreary, dream; it’s vacuity leaves one unbelieving, unrepenting, an alien to the stark reality of mortality. The steps of righteousness rise from the mired abyss to the gates of heaven. Do not fear the will of the Lord during the ascension. He will assist and guide your departure like a gleaming aurora whispering to the dead. Rejoice!!! Some dreams will be and break the threshold of utopia. The truth no longer enslaved but pouring out upon the earth like gentle drops of reign. Live…. if only for a day! Let the rain wash the ego into the hammermil. God’s hammermill to refine you, the servent, and to realign your purpose. To remind you that you are not God……………………………….In the future, vigilance and understanding will be paramount. Do not deny the Lord or the purpose of the past. The Lord’s thoughts are not our own and the blessing he has bestowed may not seem so. Rely on the commandments if you need reassuring of your own conduct and Gods credence. Do not rely on Dominionisms Holy Spirit to tell you what to say. Those that walk with Christ know that nothing but the truth will suffice. If you have been chosen for martyrdom succumb to your fate with love! Love is not stronger will like Eckhart would have you believe: it is a blessing to mankind from God!! Love subsists so mankind may live and prosper! Love is a gift– relish it and learn its many ways. Embrace the future, it is the one we chose. Do what is right forever and always! It is our responsibility to make egress, of impending acts we most confess,of true intentions we must impress! Give the Lord your heart and soul and Christ will manifest hope for all once again! A beacon to all who love and have faith!
July 5th, 2009 at 2:56 am
I belive that based on the monitoring of “The one who got away” that this user is not only a sympathizer of the smiley injustices but also a contributor. I am resolve and my Tao is clear I challenge any member of this demonistic group to dare cross blades with me.
July 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
A few drops of milk of amnesia in your brew or the abrupt blast of refrigerant R-22. Harbingers of death that leave not a clue of the gentle suffocation that will ensue. A watery grave with hues of blue. But if your death comes first the van of your torture becomes a hearse. It will spirit you away in the land of the cursed. You will be mulched into a Potter’s field to cedars and roses your flesh will yield. Then into the hammermill go your bones, ground to dust and to the four winds flown or into a river you will spill where the cycle of life gets it’s fill. Evil is perpetuated without trace and those who are truly vain lick their lips with mortalities taste. Looking down on their symbols and signs with a smile remembering when they played God for a while. For what they create is absolute and divine only in the reality of their own mind. Those of you who have read Ephesians do not despair. The threats to the disobedient have little merit. God’s wrath would never come those who speak the truth and does not hide it. The wrath of man would crush you — not God. Man protects the vine because some know of the true origin and purpose. It may be a shame to speak of those things which are done of them [ lost sheep:] in secret, but it is a sin unto God if those things are vile and corrupt and you remain silent. Christ says the truth will set us free and so it is to you.Those who worship in the house of the Lord can speak the truth without fear of thier brothers and sisters. Can you say the same? There was nothing serial about the retribution in South Carolina. Those who believe they know the mystery of Christ and God’s will realize whats at stake. Be forewarned—- the stench of hubris has reached an apex. Christ never preordained anyone—– Paul did. Stop threating God’s people. He will not deny them or those that send them. Your own vanity is in question not the messengers. My love, I now know why you did what you did when I left. Ephesians 5-21. It would have been wise to submit yourself to the Lord instead of your contemporaries. I still love you and pray for you as I do us all in these tumultuous times.
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:24 am
Kobe bryant sucks balls.
August 20th, 2009 at 3:24 am
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September 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I have been studying these so called “Accidental Drownings” and the “Smiley Face Murders”. There is no doubt that most of these college boy murders are connected. I believe the murderers worship Satan and connect with each other via internet. Some of the areas that the bodies have been found are known areas for Satanic Cults and the fact that evidence was found several times that the boys were torchered for hours before being drowned convinces me more than ever. I don’t know how many individuals are involved, but the chances of one of them spilling the beans is very slim since they themselves know what Satanists are capable of doing. If the police can just locate one person involved, they will be able to find evidence which will link them to so many others [i.e., computer evidence, video, smile faces, pictures, etc] probably dating back for 15 years altogether. Pray to God that they will be exposed now before someone else falls victim to them and pray that they will be brought out into the light exposed for all to see.
Thank You,
A Sister in Christ
September 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Athene and the immaculate glow; her owl an attribute of a war foretold…….. an ageless call to arms of the status quo They declare the commandments are dead decrees a frontal assault on Christians magnanimity. A covenant of peace bathed in Splendor Solis, the rebirth of Hermes a primeval substance of the deceased. Norton harkens the cosmic law those who do not climb the mountain are doomed like Saul. From the nigredo to the Golden Flower, the Ethiopian to the blinding light of white power all drawn with an arthame to bring nigh the hour……..The Metamorphosis of Narcissus on display, can the man on the checkerboard show us the way? If so, what will humanity have to pay? Look…… the road to ascension directs us to the left and away! With searing eloquence one can see the similitude of hermetic alchemy. The hatching egg of immortality………………………………This art must ever secret be, The cause whereof is this, as you may see; If one evil man had thereof all his will, All Christian peace he might easily spill, And with his pride he might pull down, Rightful kings and princes of renown……………… Ordinal of Alchemy… Thomas Norton……………..An evil man……..hmmm! While Christ casted out the unclean in robes of purple, The occultist “draws” them in from a circle. You decide if they are both virtues. For in the secret language of the mind, what we can not see are the ties that bind.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
There has been a boy missing from an on campus frat party at Penn State University Park since about 3am sunday morning. He would have been walking alone. They are searching via helicopters, dogs, and a walk is being organized for 8 pm tonight. There is a facebook group. His name is Joe Dado. His family is offering a reward. Please pray if nothing else. I hate to associate his name with these murders I just want to get the word out in the hopes of finding him. “Help Find Joe Dado” is the facegroup group.
He is about 5′9″ and 160 pounds with dark hair. Last seen wearing a yellow tshirt, navy zip up, and jeans.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
[...] photos of the Smiley Face Murders story are at the [...]
September 28th, 2009 at 5:41 am
It appears all the victims except two are clean cut looking men of lighter color. I would look at this as either a cul- teral, ideological and/or race motivated hate crime. The murderers are probably misguided left wing radicals that have been brainwashed by their professors with anti-white male hatred which is taught on the majority of college campus around the U.S. Further, these crimes would have gotten more attention if the victims were women or persons of darker color. I would also say the perpetrators of said crimes have a higher than average I.Q., are into or fervently embrace the homosexual lifestyle, are taking antipsychotic/psychotropic/anti depressant medication, along with using a variety of illegal drugs and alcohol. You will find a hefty collection of occult literature, pornograghy and other such books in their possession. Probably a copious amount of S&M and other bondage instruments and literature. These individuals will also be video game devotees and other board game fanatics. They will read the works of Nietzsche, Hume, Sarte, Marx, Bacon, Spinoza and other sceptics, critics and/or cynics of orthodox Christianity. Their modern day hero’s will be Anton Lavey, Allister Crowley etc. This is a gang made up of both men and women. Their prevailing morality is the ends justify the means, there are no absolutes or truth or falsehood. Although they dehumanize their victims to cope with the guilt, because in their conscience they know what they are doing is wrong.
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September 28th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Possible Leads in Smiley Face Murders
September 29th, 2009 at 12:38 am
What is the name of the organization and what is their motive or worldview? Why do we have to wait until January? In my opinion the perps have a worldview that they use to justify and rationalize their killings. Even if they say they are doing it for fun, they are telling us something about their belief system. Their worldview enables them to dehumanize their victims. Their worldview is based on some modern secular form of Philosophy, Sociology, politics etc. I believe it is a prevailing worldview taught on the majority of college campus around the world. It is definately a left worldview, that demonizes European hetersexual males of lighter color, that use alcohol in what may be considered an irresponsible way and/or who have a somewhat predatory attitude towards women when either under the influence or otherwise. One way the perps avoid the reality of their heinous crimes, is to turn their diabolical Satanic acts into a game. Games are fun, kids play games and the games of kids are harmless.
October 10th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I think the people that don’t believe this and call this story BS, they are afraid of the serial killers and it is a very scary thing. I think they say it doesn’t scare them. Personally, I think it is real, I live in a town that has bars down town and a bar right next to the Missississippi River, and no one falls in, not since I can remember. The Smiley Face Murders are real and I find it scary. I hope that the killings stop and that the killers are found and put in prison. I hope the families figure out who did this to their sons, grandsons and nephews.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:58 am
How about this one? A guy turns up in the Charles River in Boston after going missing after a Bruins game: http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1204570